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re: What has Israel done?

Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:55 am to
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
23236 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:55 am to
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Israel has never done anything to any single Palestinian ever. They welcome them with open arms, provide them with ample food and shelter, and this is how they are treated in return.


They did provide them with food, water and electricity. Did is the key word in that last sentence.

Now they are going to provide them with bombs, bullets and shallow resting spots.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31555 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:55 am to
I'm the furthest thing from an expert on the relationship between Israel and Palestine...

But I'm guessing Israel's hands aren't shiny clean in this either...

Killing each other over religion has been done since religion was invented. Stupid then and stupid now.
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
35668 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:57 am to
quote:

What has Israel done?


Chick on youtube said not to rush to defend Israel, cuz they have treated Pals like 2nd class citizens.

Guess they should've expected the rape and murder of children and civilians for hurting feels.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39180 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 10:58 am to
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But I'm guessing Israel's hands aren't shiny clean in this either...

Well considering the Palestinians (via their various extremist arms) have used their own children and civilian homes as shields from which to launch strikes and hide, dating back decades, yes many Pali civilians have been killed.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:35 am to
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Killing each other over religion has been done since religion was invented. Stupid then and stupid now.

Israel is a secular progressive nation, as leftist as they come with a strong orthodox segment. Their identity is cultural, not religious.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28623 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:39 am to
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srael has only been in existence since 1948.


You're wrong but also, show me where Palestine has ever existed on a map....
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 11:41 am
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5100 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:40 am to
Not true. Part of their land, none of it ever was, they claim was part of Egypt. They did many years back ask to have control of that part and Egypt said no.

These people have always laid false claims their land was stolen and given to the Jews. That is simply a falsehood. People keep pressuring Israel to make all these concessions and all they ever end up getting in return is killed for it.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68091 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:42 am to
I'm not endorsing this, but Pepe is interesting as kind of an anti-western journalist.

quote:

Pepe Escobar
@RealPepeEscobar
Killing them softly with an "unprovoked" song.

Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28623 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:44 am to
There has never been a Palestine.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5100 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:45 am to
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show me where Palestine has ever existed on a map....


They can't. They can only tell you what they were taught by a leftist professor or read on DU or Daily Kos.

Israel doesn't owe anybody dick. Regardless of how they have given or sceded, they have always been attacked because they are Jews.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:45 am to
quote:

You're wrong but also, show me where Palestine has ever existed on a map....

LINK: Wikipedia

quote:

Joel 3:4  Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head.

This isn't a hard thing. We don't have to ask ignorant questions to support our positions.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37321 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:45 am to
They are the boogy man for all of their problems. It’s easy to blame others for your shortcomings.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:48 am to
The history there is complicated. Jewish settlers more or less have built the modern country, but in some cases that means they have evicted the people who were there in the first place. That is the biggest complaint of Palestinians.

It's kind of like what Americans did to the Indians, except Israelis literally kicked people out of their existing brick and mortar homes and moved Israelis in.

They aren't just "animals" who hate Jews for no good reason.



Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:49 am to
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hey have evicted the people who were there in the first place. That is the biggest complaint of Palestinians.

Palestinians were told they would be killed by Arafat if they didn't leave. It was a very shrewd move.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:54 am to
"Palestine" has existed as a region, and as an official British protectorate wherein it was mostly populated by non-Jewish Arabs.

It has never officially been a "nation" in modern times. But to say "there has never been a Palestine" is dishonest.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27969 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:55 am to
1946: Didn't Britian own that land in 1946? If so, how is any of it "Jewish land" or "Palestinian land?"

UN plan 1947: frick then UN.

1949-1967: Google 6 Day war (1967). When you start a war, lose it, expect to lose property.

Interesting dates chosen...
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27969 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:56 am to
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"Palestine" has existed as a region


The region still exists.

Case closed.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
2745 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 12:05 pm to
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It has never officially been a "nation" in modern times. But to say "there has never been a Palestine" is dishonest.


That's kind of my point. Israel as a nation hasn't existed since about 600 BC and Judah since about 100 years after. They've been regions and provinces since then owned by everyone and their mother. The philistines occupied that area up until the Assyrians conquered Israel, so Israel never really did own that area.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 12:06 pm
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5100 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 12:19 pm to
There has never been an Arab or Muslim state of Palestine. Ever. Period.

The Paelstine you speak about was Jewish teriirtory. Not the one these PLO apologists make up.

So yes, factually, the current Palestinians never had their own nation or land. Please show me the discovered remnants of these Palestinians. You know like old buildings and walls like other nations have.

You can't. Because their claim is made up bullshite.

It would be so much easier to just come out and say "I hate Jews" because that's really what you and these Palestinians are doing with these stupid claims.
Posted by El Tigre Grande
Bayou Self
Member since Jan 2006
2656 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 12:28 pm to
A long, long time ago, Abraham bred an arab concubine named Hagar...
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