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re: What exactly did the Left want Trump to do in Helsinki?

Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:47 am to
Posted by SleauxPlay
Here and there
Member since Oct 2005
3427 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:47 am to
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He was pretty much in a no win situation. Tell the press that he went in dry on Putin and they would say he has no couth and he's a clown. Tell them that he was diplomatic and he was Putin's puppet.

There were two narratives written even before AF1 ever left for the NATO summit and those were the only ones that were going to be used.

He probably should have just talked in circles on the question make it a non answer answer.


You are presenting extremes as the only options. I know diplomatic nuance isn't really Trump's thing, but come on...
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:55 am to
Not bend the knee to Putin
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27481 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:55 am to
The press narratives were set and they wanted to present it to the public in extremes. I was not a fan of him having this one on one summit because of the optics and the script that I saw being written ever since its announcement by the MSM and Democrats and to be honest, Trump sort of helped them to tot out the script yesterday.
Posted by tigertex1992
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1863 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:57 am to
This is not a left vs right thing. EVERYONE is criticizing the way Trump handled this. Republicans and Democrats. It was that bad. Throwing his own intelligence agencies under the bus but blindly accepting Putin's claim that they have 'never' tampered with US internal politics?? "Putin strongly denied it" ... So case closed? LOL! This is insane. He could have just said nothing but he went out of his way to harm his own people.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 10:59 am
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:59 am to
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regarding Putin? Sincere question


They wanted Obama to bring up China's human rights violations to Xi Jinping in their press conferences.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13447 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:59 am to
Punch him out at the presser, apparently.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13447 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:04 am to
I'm also guessing they wanted him to press Putin on the treatment of transgenders in the Buryat community.
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61263 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:06 am to
He didn’t throw the intelligence community under the bus. Putin denied Russian interference, which was to be expected. So what did you want Trump to do after Putin denied Russian involvement? Put the cuffs on Putin?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:12 am to
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True, but his response still objectively sucked

I don't disagree; not his shiniest moment.

quote:

Not sure why yall keep trying to defend it

I didn't defend what he did, only said what I thought the Left wanted him to do.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 11:13 am
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:13 am to
Not agree with Putin
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64325 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:14 am to
About evidence that links the Kremlin with the hacked dnc server?
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:16 am to
That Russia is innocent of the charges
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17474 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:17 am to
There is so much ignorance in this thread.

Anyone who believes the Russians got DJT elected president have been duped. Sorry, but you have.

It's really sad to see human beings with such a low level of competence, and it continues to prove that the education system of this nation has succeeded in the dumbing-down of the populace. You "free-thinkers" aren't free. You "moral relativists" can't have it both ways.





Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5221 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:32 am to
quote:

What exactly did the Left want Trump to do in Helsinki?

They wanted him to start a new cold war so they can hang the noose of consequence around the necks of the administration and Repubs.

Against the backdrop of the disastrous Obama and Hillary foreign policy they desperately need failures on the other side to make them look better.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14174 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:36 am to
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I am "defending" from the insane response and behavior of the libs the last 24 hours. Completely irrational.

Yeah, some percentage of the response was the normal over the top stuff. But, by and large the response was commensurate with Trump's dismal performance.

Trump's responses were mindless, as if he hadn't rehearsed his answers to the questions everyone knew were coming.

He just wasn't prepared and he seemed almost disoriented. He was tweeting in the hours leading up to the meeting.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9924 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:44 am to
Apparently make tearful confessions of collusion to steal the election to the entire world once caught completely off guard by A.P. reporter Jon Lemire's brilliant and ever so subtle question.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:13 pm to
What happened in that meeting was Putin pulled his dick out of Melania's arse, and stuck it in Ivanka's mouth while Trump was curled up in a corner sobbing like a girl. Trump emerged from the meeting as the King of the Cucks, while Putin takes the mantle of Alpha male.

That is NOT what anyone but Trump supporters (apparently) wanted to see.

What is obvious to most of Americans, and the rest of the world, Trump supporters are in complete denial of - Trump is nothing but a beta cuck.
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