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re: What does the US gain by sabotaging the Nord pipeline?

Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:59 am to
Posted by YankeeBama
Milwaukee
Member since Sep 2017
4741 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:59 am to
The tactical upside is that the US can now prevent Germany from caving on the sanctions against Russia so that the US can maintain its proxy war on Russia using the Ukraine and the EU as expendable assets.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:59 am to
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Why? That's not how Putin operates.

Because that's the point of a false flag. I've seen Putin play wounded victim plenty of times.

No one is questioning who did it, which means they all know.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:15 am to
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Like I said in the other thread, just watch out fast the Russian talking points populate this board.

There is not jackschidt 'like you said', moron
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:24 am to
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That pipeline isn't going to be used anyway (due to his decision to cut off Europe), so why not do what Putin does and manufacture a perceived crisis where Putin can't be blamed? That's literally what he's trying to do in Ukraine. It's his M.O.


This is pretty much where I am.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:26 am to
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I’m thinking this is a Russian operation, but I could be convinced otherwise.


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Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73544 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:28 am to
Can you explain to me what Jack is talking about?
Posted by umrebel2009
Member since Feb 2010
7287 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:29 am to
Gives us an excuse to send more of our own fuels to another country
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422344 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:32 am to
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There is not jackschidt 'like you said', moron


The "Biden threatened to blow up the pipeline" meme is literally a talking point being spouted by Russian news propaganda, dude.

Those same propaganda points are flooding this board.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12812 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:33 am to
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Can you explain to me what Jack is talking about?


If Russia were going to take out a pipeline, would they take out their own or the balticpipe alternative right next to it that just had the ribbon cut?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73544 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:34 am to
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57287 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:40 am to
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Other than some just incredibly bad luck, the only party that makes sense is Russia.


Why would Russia bomb their own pipeline when they could just shut it off and use that as leverage for more power?

Bombing it removes all leverage.

The only ones who profit off of this are those pushing green energy and already hold enough assets to buy everything on the cheap at the bottom after everything crashes so that they become exponentially more wealthy on the rebound.

And that would be the WEF all the way...by there own open admission, their goal is to reshape the world under their control. They made FREAKING COMMERCIALS and wrote "best sellers" saying so...this isn't some crazy theory. It;s their stated goal.

Who stands to profit and advance their goals? The WEF plan and simple, And if you have been following the news in Europe and overseas, there is a ground swell movement directly aimed against the WEF, by name.

Posted by bucknut
Lufkin, Texas
Member since Dec 2013
1809 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:44 am to
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SlowFlowPro

The US blew up the pipeline. This country is beyond evil. Now go seethe and dilate.
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:45 am to
Not letting a major hurricane strike in Florida go to waste we blow up a pipeline. Current administration knows any news of pipeline will be obscured by hurricane press.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422344 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:46 am to
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Why would Russia bomb their own pipeline when they could just shut it off and use that as leverage for more power?

The same question could be asked about why Putin manufactured a bullshite justification for invading Ukraine.

What was the point of that?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7570 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:48 am to
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I’m thinking this is a Russian operation


LMAO. Russia? That is absurd. Why in the hell would they blow up their own pipeline? They can turn it off at any moment, so why blow it up?

We have a US President, and others in positions of authority, saying the US would do this. Why would you think otherwise?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57287 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:55 am to
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The same question could be asked about why Putin manufactured a bullshite justification for invading Ukraine.


I don't care about Russia or Ukraine.

But to say Russia "manufactured" a "bullshite" reason is disingenuousness at best given the history of Ukraine during and after both World Wars...history that every leftest seemed to agree on until about 2016...now they pretend Ukraine was never split and that Ukrainians never committed genocide against people in their own territory.
Posted by bucknut
Lufkin, Texas
Member since Dec 2013
1809 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:55 am to
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SlowFlowPro

Yeah, its just a coincidence the US in summer trained at exact same spot doing exactly that- underwater diversions.

LINK

at the moment of attack a US military vessel was conducting a mission there.

Surely its just Russian super human battle swimmers that did it in most observed sea area of NATO, near a strategic isle and under the eyes of present Danish and US military vessels.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21884 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:00 am to
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What’s Russia have to gain by blowing up their own money spigot?
If Russia was behind it, best guess is that they do it to frame either the US or Ukraine to drive a wedge between them and the European allies. Turn EU public sentiment against continued aid and money being sent to Ukraine if the public is tricked into believing that Ukraine sabotaged the pipeline and is the reason the EU is freezing all winter.
Posted by TigerIron
Member since Feb 2021
3031 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:00 am to
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This post was edited on 11/9/22 at 9:20 pm
Posted by MC5601
Tyler, Texas
Member since Jan 2010
3888 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 9:05 am to
The only thing that makes sense about Russia bombing their own pipeline is that now they can freeze Europe and blame the US without repercussion. They can cause millions in Europe to suffer while absolving is themselves from any blame
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