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re: What does the US gain by sabotaging the Nord pipeline?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:23 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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Ukraine has something to gain
Crippling their #1 or 2 ally?
escalation
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:25 am to SlowFlowPro
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the only party that makes sense is Russia.
You have to REALLY get into CT mindset to justify why Europe or the US would do this.
Maybe this is NK just trying to light the world on fire.
You have laid out two additional conspiracy theories to counter and diminish the USA did it 'CT'. You have no evidence either way to validate any of your points other than personal conviction. You, ma'am, are the definition of conspiracy theorist.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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Other than some just incredibly bad luck
Occam's razor.
Sometimes shite just breaks.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:28 am to Eli Goldfinger
Well, wouldn’t it seem reasonable to say Putin/Russia’s war ‘gainst Ukraine has been in some large part paid for with that pipeline, and was gonna continue to fund it (and then some) for however long it takes especially when their plan to extort Europeans and force them to pay, what, maybe double or triple the old prices once they get into extreme cold season and become crazed with desperation.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:29 am to TrueTiger
3 holes in 2 different pipelines...
underwater explosions detected...
yeah, it just broke.
underwater explosions detected...
yeah, it just broke.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:31 am to SlowFlowPro
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quote:Ukraine has something to gain Crippling their #1 or 2 ally?
What’s Russia have to gain by blowing up their own money spigot?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:31 am to Eli Goldfinger
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What does the US gain by sabotaging the Nord pipeline?
Control over Russia’s energy supply.
I fully believe this was Biden and the gang. Spreading misery through Europe to prove a point.
He’s a fricking dementia riddled idiot and the committee of globalist assholes who control him have no excuse
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:32 am to HorseShoeHenry
Well, smart people do claim that Occam's razor is bullshite
because everyone believes their explanation is the simplest.
because everyone believes their explanation is the simplest.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:35 am to Eli Goldfinger
if you think the US didn't blow those pipelines you're a straight up retard.
the point is escalation. Biden and his neocon goons will do everything including all out war with Russia to deflect from this failure of an administration.
the point is escalation. Biden and his neocon goons will do everything including all out war with Russia to deflect from this failure of an administration.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:35 am to DellTronJon
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You have laid out two additional conspiracy theories t
No. I said the only party that makes sense is Russia.
Then I made an obvious joke.
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You have no evidence either way to validate any of your points other than personal conviction.
You're right. I don't 'have evidence. I used logic and reason.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:36 am to TigerIron
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Russia doesn't have to send any gas, but without the pipeline it *can't* send any gas,
Exactly.
Now Putin goes from a villain to a victim of fate, so Europe can't blame him for their impending terrible winter.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:36 am to Eli Goldfinger
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Russian operation,
You might want to think in the terms of a Globalist Operation... Then connect the dots from there...
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:39 am to SlowFlowPro
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Now Putin goes from a villain to a victim of fate
So now he announces he would have lent a hand, but too bad for the break?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:42 am to TrueTiger
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So now he announces he would have lent a hand, but too bad for the break?
Putin didn't expect this operation would take this long or the international fallout. They are completely changing their logistics with Ukraine and digging in for a long (potentially multi-year to decade) engagement.
That pipeline isn't going to be used anyway (due to his decision to cut off Europe), so why not do what Putin does and manufacture a perceived crisis where Putin can't be blamed? That's literally what he's trying to do in Ukraine. It's his M.O.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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I used logic and reason
Delusion
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:50 am to SlowFlowPro
Putin seems to believe that the cards he has are better than they actually are.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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You have to REALLY get into CT mindset to justify why Europe or the US would do this.
We are trying to crush Russia. If everyone knows we are willing to blow up pipelines to stop Russia from being prosperous, they will not engage them.
If Russia did it as a false flag, they would be screaming and yelling like fools. We're not hearing that fake drama.
They only way this isn't seen as the most likely scenario is if you buy into the patriotic or environmentalist propaganda. We are not the good guys and they're not worried about the planet. They want to crush Russia for whatever reason and will do it at whatever cost.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:55 am to TrueTiger
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Putin seems to believe that the cards he has are better than they actually are.
Sadly, so do many American posters on this board.
They have bought his stupid bullshite "justification" for invading a non-threat in Ukraine and have been promoting that bullshite for 9 months on here.
Putin's direct plans aren't even that smart. Where Putin is smart is understanding how to proliferate his narrative, and how sewing seeds of dissention will make this effort echo his propaganda.
Again, just look at this board.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:57 am to squid_hunt
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If Russia did it as a false flag, they would be screaming and yelling like fools
Why? That's not how Putin operates.
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If everyone knows we are willing to blow up pipelines to stop Russia from being prosperous
Russia is no threat to be prosperous, and they weren't a threat to be prosperous prior to this emotional invasion of Ukraine
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We are not the good guys
We are not good guys.
Russia is also not good guys, and they've been much worse for a while now.
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