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re: What does 86 mean?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:24 pm to dgnx6
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:24 pm to dgnx6
quote:I did not, which suggests ambiguity (Brandenburg v. Ohio, Elonis v. United States), vagueness (Virginia v. Black), and lack of specificity (Watts v. US)- which makes it almost a certainty that any court would rule as protected speech.
I grew up with this term meaning to off someone
For example, Watts v. US was in reference to a man who publicly stated, "If they ever make me carry a rifle, the first man I want to get in my sights is L.B.J." (which, btw, is far more specific and directly threatening than 8647). He was convicted of threatening the president.
The Supreme Court overturned the conviction, finding the statement was political hyperbole, not a "true threat." The Court held that for a statement to be illegal, it must be a serious expression of intent to commit violence, not just offensive or exaggerated rhetoric.
Like Watts' statement, "86 47" is vague and lacks a specific plan or method of harm.
You guys can keep beating this drum, though. I'm sure Comey appreciates the free publicity for his book.
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Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:00 pm to dgnx6
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I grew up with this term meaning to off someone.
So did I, I always thought all other meanings were derived from it. And thank you for posting those actual examples of the term being used in this context. Nevertheless, in any context it means delete, eliminate, decisively get rid of something. And it seems EVERYONE knows this to some extent. Everyone but Comey, who thought it was merely a shell formation...
Comey is a liar, and I think it is getting a bit lost that the ex an FBI Director just got himself caught for being a disingenuous liar. That position comes with a lot of responsibilities, which includes having the highest level of integrity to ensure public trust. The FBI is constantly accused of crossing lines that invade rights. They make assertions that have the ability to ruin lives. Did he always approach his job with this level of discretion in the words he chose to use? Did he ever play dumb before? Has the FBI ever investigated cryptic signs and signals like this before?
Which is exactly why we have so much dissonance towards the term 86, not what it means for him to say it. Because the truth is that Trump was right to fire him, and right not to trust him. He just got vindicated, again. This is the Deep State, right here for us to see.
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But in the context of Trump, a guy that has had multiple attempts on his life while deomcrats celebrate it, it doesn mean you are out of something.
This guy was also specifically involved in efforts to "86" Trump previously. Those efforts have escalated since then to the point where people have tried to "86" Trump in the context that you and I grew up believing it meant.
Do I think he deserves to get arrested? Or that this isn't protected speech - not exactly. But I do hope he gets the same treatment that he was undoubtedly responsible for at the FBI and other parts of his career in law enforcement.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:04 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Like, if they wanted the hamburger with no ketchup, you wrote on the slip for the kitchen "burger, 86 ketchup".
Sure, you could do this if the word "no" is too much to write for you.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:05 pm to Dolphinepride
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We used it when I worked in restaurants to communicate we were out of a product. A "dead" menu item that needs to be communicated.
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Never heard it described like that. We used it to mean the kitchen was out of an item.
We aren't saying the same thing?
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:16 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:86 in the kitchen is usually only used verbally, other than "86 boards" where you write down whatever is pulled from the menu so the servers see it. Tickets will usually have something like "no sauce". Although, now that I think about it, "86" doesn't seem any easier or harder to write than "no."
Sure, you could do this if the word "no" is too much to write for you.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:18 pm to FLTech
My first thought was 8 foot long 6 feet deep. Same as a grave. 8 miles out 6 feet deep. 8647 we the exact number of days since 9/11. Sooo I think something has relevance
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:21 pm to Fells
It’s amazing to me how whenever anybody says anything truthful (with evidence) you stupid fricking democrats still can’t accept the truth
Did you know that the stock market went up 300+ points today?
I bet your stupid fricking response will somehow find a way to call it fake
Did you know that Kamala/Obama/Jill Biden allowed 20 million illegals into our country?
I bet your stupid fricking response will somehow find a way to call it fake
You democrats are the most pathetic pieces of garbage to ever walk this earth. fricking losers
Did you know that the stock market went up 300+ points today?
I bet your stupid fricking response will somehow find a way to call it fake
Did you know that Kamala/Obama/Jill Biden allowed 20 million illegals into our country?
I bet your stupid fricking response will somehow find a way to call it fake
You democrats are the most pathetic pieces of garbage to ever walk this earth. fricking losers
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:39 pm to 632627
They want him dead
This post was edited on 5/16/25 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:40 pm to northshorebamaman
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86 in the kitchen is usually only used verbally, other than "86 boards" where you write down whatever is pulled from the menu so the servers see it. Tickets will usually have something like "no sauce". Although, now that I think about it, "86" doesn't seem any easier or harder to write than "no."
Exactly. Every restaurant I've ever worked in uses "86" to mean a menu item that is dead, meaning it can't be prepared by the kitchen because we ran out of something. We used "86" because "no" wasn't sufficient enough for the meaning. "No" could mean "we're trying to prep more right now." "86" means "we won't have that tonight."
This post was edited on 5/16/25 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:40 pm to imjustafatkid
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It means to kill something.
Haha. This is bullshite. .
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:41 pm to Bengalbio
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Haha. This is bullshite. .
Nope. That's literally what it means.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:53 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:I can't speak to the places you've worked, but in the decades I've worked in kitchens, up until last night, "dead" has always had a specific meaning separate from "86." "Dead" refers to food that's sat in the window for so long that it is no longer servable ("your food died in the window because you suck", "that plate is dead"). I've never in my life heard anyone refer to an 86'd item as dead. That would be confusing.
Exactly. Every restaurant I've ever worked in uses "86" to mean a menu item that is dead, meaning it can't be prepared by the kitchen because we ran out of something. We used "86" because "no" wasn't sufficient enough for the meaning. "No" could mean "we're trying to prep more right now." "86" means "we won't have that tonight."
Posted on 5/16/25 at 6:05 pm to northshorebamaman
OK. Feel free to interpret "86" to mean something other than what it means.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 6:11 pm to TBoy
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or to stop something that you are doing.
While I have no doubt your father had many disapproving words for you, but i seriously doubt he ever said: "86 that dick sucking, son!"
Posted on 5/16/25 at 6:25 pm to imjustafatkid
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OK. Feel free to interpret "86" to mean something other than what it means.
I prefaced my first post by saying that these are the ways 86 is used in my business: restaurants. And my definitions are accurate for my industry. I cannot speak to the experience of the numerous made men in this thread that came up using it as a euphemism for murder. 
Posted on 5/16/25 at 6:31 pm to Azkiger
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While I have no doubt your father had many disapproving words for you, but i seriously doubt he ever said: "86 that dick sucking, son!"
I don't have a frickin' clue what this post is responding to and I don't care. But that part right there made me chuckle.
Upvote forthwith.
Posted on 5/16/25 at 8:09 pm to FLTech
Jeez people. It aint that hard. There is no traceable origin story. There are no links to popular culture to the restaurant myth of the 1930s. The term wasnt even used in a book until the 1940s, and in that instance it was used in forcibly removing someone from a bar. Absolutely no connection to the 'being out of a menu item'. If used, that meaning never left the 30s culturally
But the fact that the parody of wildly popular 007 agent James Bond in the form of Maxwell Smart (1965), came to be known as Agent 86. The defining moment for that number.going forward was to be killed politically
James Bond was given a license to kill by the queen of England, and its historically documented that Agent 86 was the American (parody) version of a govt assassin. So when someone was 86'd from that point on, it meant to be killed by a hired assassin/hitman
But the fact that the parody of wildly popular 007 agent James Bond in the form of Maxwell Smart (1965), came to be known as Agent 86. The defining moment for that number.going forward was to be killed politically
James Bond was given a license to kill by the queen of England, and its historically documented that Agent 86 was the American (parody) version of a govt assassin. So when someone was 86'd from that point on, it meant to be killed by a hired assassin/hitman
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:52 pm to cajunangelle
quote:What do The Kinks say?
The Rolling Stones and others have pieces out saying "the right" are losing their minds over the term 86
Posted on 5/16/25 at 9:58 pm to dgnx6
quote:this is almost certainly a back derivation or whatever it's called
8 feet long and 6 feet deep
like frick being short for "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge"
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