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What direction is our country really headed in?

Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:21 am
Posted by AmazinGrace
LSU Fan, Georgetown Alumni
Member since Dec 2013
933 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:21 am
This question is a lot bigger than just republican, democrat, and independent. Its more of a tug of war with different thoughts and theories that ultimately wins out for one side or the other.

From a demographics stand point the discussion begins:

White Americans - 75.72%
Black Americans - 16.06%
Asian Americans - 7.09%
Native Americans - 1.13%

Non-Hispanic whites - 53.89%
Non-Hispanic blacks - 14.77%
Non-White/Black Hispanic 23.12%

75.72% - 53.89% = 21.83%
16.06% - 14.77% = 1.29%



By age:

00 - 14 years: 18.62%
15 - 24 years: 13.12%
25 - 54 years: 39.29%
55 - 64 years: 12.94%
65 - up years: 16.03%

Where exactly are we headed as a nation. Is the endgame simply a liberal society or can conservatives adapt to changing times. Are millennials the true key to success for either party going forward? Swaying that generation seems to be the focus of both parties at the present time.

This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 10:50 am
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5184 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:22 am to
Where are Mexicans on your list?
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36709 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:26 am to
quote:

White Americans - 75.72%
Black Americans - 16.06%


Really? I honestly never thought about it but when I see that I would have guessed the difference wasn't nearly that much.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:27 am to
oblivion just like all other empires before us
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19197 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:30 am to
quote:

oblivion just like all other empires before us


Funny how some don’t get this. It will take a while but will happen.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7598 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:32 am to
Populism will win out.

Our nation is in severe debt. Corporations are in severe debt. Americans are in debt. Students are graduating with debt many will never be able to repay.

Wages are not rising in the middle class.

All politicians are promising more and more stuff.

The end result, no matter who is in power, will be a debt jubilee.

Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:34 am to
Non Hispanic whites are only 52% and falling fast. The way they code white people is a joke
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 10:35 am
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29174 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Peaceful Balkanization will happen eventually, at least we better hope that is the policy.


Not a chance.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48319 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Really? I honestly never thought about it but when I see that I would have guessed the difference wasn't nearly that much.



Black Americans have been and will continue to be a stable percentage of the population - 12-14%

Not sure where OP got is his numbers. They are wrong.

Latinos is the huge changing demographics in the country.
Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:42 am to
Socialism
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
7580 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Our nation is in severe debt. Corporations are in severe debt. Americans are in debt. Students are graduating with debt many will never be able to repay.


It's all just paper. Within our borders, we grow more food than we can eat, we have more fossil fuels than we can burn in two-life times, we have millions upon millions acres of uninhabited arable land, laden with resources that we need, we have in place an infrastructure, though a little worn around the edges, better than most of the world. There could be a reset like the USSR had in the late '80s, but considering what we have in place and if we all can work together, white, black, brown, yellow, purple, etc we'll be fine.
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 10:44 am
Posted by tagatose
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2005
2008 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:42 am to
Where's the Christians vs non-Christians trend
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:45 am to
When you remove the Hispanics that consider themselves white it drops to 52%. Also whites make up under 50% of new births. But we aren’t allowed to talk about the forces behind this shift
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67959 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Where are Mexicans on your list?




they are either in the native american basket (miskito indians)

or

white euro Spaniards
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:49 am to
quote:


The end result, no matter who is in power, will be a debt jubilee.



When the whole world is in debt no one is in debt is how they look at it.

We pay (and our kids/grandkids pay) to bail out the banks who default who then take over all the assets from the people paying to bail them out. LOL.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48382 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:50 am to
Eventual Subjugation.
Posted by Muthsera
Member since Jun 2017
7319 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 10:59 am to
quote:

conservatives adapt to changing times


Conservatism by its very nature is always "losing" as society evolves around it.

If we leave aside the Uniparty and their ultimate goals and focus only on the section of the electorate that usually votes GOP - can they grow their ranks? Maybe a little, not without losing some in trade. Will they see any political success in the near future? No, not really.

Who are the people open to individualism/personal responsibility as a governing style? Anyone white person who doesn't already vote GOP is a major social liberal, any minority is likely vastly more collectivist. Which do you target with an amended platform?
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 11:17 am to
People call me a fascist like it’s a bad thing
(Well actually most of the retards on here think I’m a leftist)
This post was edited on 4/18/20 at 11:18 am
Posted by RonLaFlamme
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
1681 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 11:19 am to
Macro trends are clear, but these sorts of assessments never take into account generational changes in attitudes that can lessen or negate what the macro trend shows.

What's the Buckley quote - "a conservative is a liberal who was mugged by reality" 18-25's are young and dumb (no offense intended) and by the time most hit their 30's and definitely their 40's their belief systems are significantly altered from their youth.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 4/18/20 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Buckley


Gatekeeper
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