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re: What can be done to improve Louisiana's depressing economic prospects?
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:38 am to member12
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:38 am to member12
I would make Louisiana unique among the states by:
1) changing the legal system to loser pay like the Commonwealth countries have
2) end the income tax by moving more state functions to local governments and giving those governments more power to tax--this would negate the stupid tax exemptions we have now and end the welfare we hand out through tax credits. We could, for example, move all teacher pay to local governments.
3) reform property tax by ending ITEP and homestead exemption while rolling back millages to keep the collections the same
4) all education funding would be voucher giving all Louisiana families school choice
We would be unique and investment would flow in.
1) changing the legal system to loser pay like the Commonwealth countries have
2) end the income tax by moving more state functions to local governments and giving those governments more power to tax--this would negate the stupid tax exemptions we have now and end the welfare we hand out through tax credits. We could, for example, move all teacher pay to local governments.
3) reform property tax by ending ITEP and homestead exemption while rolling back millages to keep the collections the same
4) all education funding would be voucher giving all Louisiana families school choice
We would be unique and investment would flow in.
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:39 am to member12
Have the Saints win the Super Bowl then everyone will be happy.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:44 am to member12
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What can be done (that's politically feasible) to improve Louisiana's economic prospects?
The bolded part is the issue.
The rich and politically connected don't want to see any changes, because that would threaten their status as rich and politically connected. They are doing quite fine, thank you, and don't need or want any changes.
The poor are also doing fine... they get all the government cheese they need to stay afloat.
The shrinking middle class, who need the improvements, don't have the political clout needed.
You need to understand that the government, at both the state and local levels, are stopping improvements, both due to a structure that doesn't support them, and corruption that actively stops it, when the structure would allow it.
You have to change both the revenue and expense models used in state and local government. Let local governments raise and spend more, but they have to reform to remove corruption.
Look at weed, sports gambling, and fantasy gambling, for example. None of these by themselves, or even together, will solely improve the state's fortunes. But they will help. They will create jobs, they will bring in some tax revenue, etc.
Yet, a single wanna be pastor in N LA, who wants to tell us all how to live, and a few video poker truck stop owners / video poker company owners, have been able to stop the state from allowing all three.
We don't have lawsuit reform because a few attorneys buy off half the politicians, and the other half represent the jackpot winners.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:45 am to I B Freeman
It might help if yall stopped inbreeding.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:46 am to cwill
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I don't think it would work that easily. First, why would business suddenly move to LA over TX? Secondly, all the talent has moved to the business centers of HOU, DAL and SA...there's a talent gap that is too large to bridge. In fact LA businesses have moved to TX in order to have access to a deeper talent pool. They couldn't attract top-line talent to LA due to shite schools and a generally, overall lack of a true urbane city.
It's only easy in concept, especially the education aspect.
Our public education system may never be fixed, but even if it is it will take decades before it bears the fruit we're talking about. Instead the primary focus needs to be on the economics that could make La attractive enough to bring businesses in (bringing in their higher-educated employees who will then demand better education for their children as they create families here). That doesn't mean they can't both be worked on at the same time, just that one can be done far more quickly than the other.
That doesn't even get into how we need a convention to limit tax exemptions, consolidate some state offices, etc.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:47 am to 2Yutes
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Louisiana has to make moves to diversify an econonmy that is still overly dependent on O&G.
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True. This is a topic that should be discussed way more. Unfortunately, JBE has proven he cannot move our economy in any positive direction much less into new business sectors. I hope he proves me wrong if re-elected.
To be fair, the state (or at least some people in the state) have tried to move more toward tech and biomedical. The tech sector though, seems more interested in importing low-wage foreigners, and the bioinnovation sector is still a very small part of the economy.
And you have the whole tv/film industry, but the real money still flows outside the state.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:49 am to I B Freeman
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We could, for example, move all teacher pay to local governments.
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all education funding would be voucher giving all Louisiana families school choice
While both of these ideas have merits, I don't see how you could do both of them. A single voucher that can be used for any school in the state, would require a centralized funding source.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:53 am to member12
1. Constitutional convention to remove restrictions on funding cuts to specific programs.
2. Create a committee for oversight of state legislation corruption. Corruption is rampant in the capitol.
3. Create tax incentives to lure more non oil and gas companies to the state. Louisiana will never be able to compete for lucrative corporate relocations without dramatic incentives.
4. Accept that Louisiana will never have the wealthiest colleges with the best facilities and advanced research. Focus on building a reputation for having professors whose first concern is teaching, not furthering their research. Streamline the state’s two university systems by merging them and close at least one campus from each. Allocate the savings to hiring better professors and promoting corporate - classroom partnerships particularly in the technology sector.
5. Maintain a low cost of living and watch as people and businesses begin to move to the state as Texas and other regional growth leaders become more expensive.
6. Make LSU the nation’s top university for coastal restoration research and expertise.
7. Keep up support for being the mecca of natural gas exportation.
2. Create a committee for oversight of state legislation corruption. Corruption is rampant in the capitol.
3. Create tax incentives to lure more non oil and gas companies to the state. Louisiana will never be able to compete for lucrative corporate relocations without dramatic incentives.
4. Accept that Louisiana will never have the wealthiest colleges with the best facilities and advanced research. Focus on building a reputation for having professors whose first concern is teaching, not furthering their research. Streamline the state’s two university systems by merging them and close at least one campus from each. Allocate the savings to hiring better professors and promoting corporate - classroom partnerships particularly in the technology sector.
5. Maintain a low cost of living and watch as people and businesses begin to move to the state as Texas and other regional growth leaders become more expensive.
6. Make LSU the nation’s top university for coastal restoration research and expertise.
7. Keep up support for being the mecca of natural gas exportation.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:55 am to Bard
re: Education
We are really starting to move toward a two-tier public education system in Louisiana.
We have a tier of magnet and a few charter schools that are really very good, as well as some good suburban schools. These schools are starting to become good enough for successful people to use for child education.
And then we have the second tier of schools, which is basically all your neighborhood urban and most rural schools, and a number of urban charters, which still suck and are getting worse.
For example, Ochsner wants to start a public high school were half of the spots are guaranteed to children of their employees.
Catholic school enrollment is falling in NOLA. Not sure about BR. But more and more people are finding options in the public school system that are just as good as the averages Catholic schools. Many of the people who now attend NOLA Catholic high schools are legacy students, and the kid goes there more because the parent wants the status / connections. These kids would receive a better education at Ben Franklin or Lusher.
We are really starting to move toward a two-tier public education system in Louisiana.
We have a tier of magnet and a few charter schools that are really very good, as well as some good suburban schools. These schools are starting to become good enough for successful people to use for child education.
And then we have the second tier of schools, which is basically all your neighborhood urban and most rural schools, and a number of urban charters, which still suck and are getting worse.
For example, Ochsner wants to start a public high school were half of the spots are guaranteed to children of their employees.
Catholic school enrollment is falling in NOLA. Not sure about BR. But more and more people are finding options in the public school system that are just as good as the averages Catholic schools. Many of the people who now attend NOLA Catholic high schools are legacy students, and the kid goes there more because the parent wants the status / connections. These kids would receive a better education at Ben Franklin or Lusher.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 12:01 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Catholic school enrollment is falling in NOLA. Not sure about BR.
Not sure about strictly Catholic school enrollment but private schools in and around BR are doing well. The whole St George issue originally came about due to the EBR school board failing to address the shittiness of their public schools.
When you have half a parish wanting to incorporate into their own city just so they can build a decent school or two, that's a problem.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 12:15 pm to Wtodd
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Stop
Electing
Retarded
People
Jindal was a republican, right? He's fricking retarded
Posted on 9/23/19 at 1:07 pm to TigerBlazer
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Jindal was a republican, right? He's fricking retarded
I wasn't implying that there are plenty of retards on the right but you guys are getting buttfricked by the left
Posted on 9/23/19 at 2:17 pm to Bard
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The whole St George issue originally came about due to the EBR school board failing to address the shittiness of their public schools.
The state of LA, taking over all but about 3-4 public schools in NOLA, was the best thing that could have ever happened to it.
The RSD was not without faults, but it ultimately led to the only all-charter school system in the country. All schools are now back under the umbrella of Orleans Parish Schools, but everyone is a charter. So, the politics of the Orleans Parish School Board has been completely neutered. About the only think they do now is oversee the charter process, and approve a budget.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 3:26 pm to member12
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Under JBE, Louisiana is the only state that hasn't gained jobs in the Trump economic expansion. Louisiana is falling behind her peers in every economic measure, all while the flagship public university is stagnant What can be done (that's politically feasible) to improve Louisiana's economic prospects?
Environmental clean up is one thing- it will cost jobs in the short run but attract/retain the upper middle educated classes more in the long run.
Take advantage of the state’s climate and history. Build some coastal bike trails, open a decent museum of Creole and Cajun history.
Legalize marijuana and allow hotels and bars to permit smoking it inside.
Abolish the income tax and stop voting in cronies from political families.
Improve schools and recreational facilities so generational criminal behavior is mitigated.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 3:34 pm to MarinaTigerEsq
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Environmental clean up is one thing- it will cost jobs in the short run but attract/retain the upper middle educated classes more in the long run.
Take advantage of the state’s climate and history. Build some coastal bike trails, open a decent museum of Creole and Cajun history.
Legalize marijuana and allow hotels and bars to permit smoking it inside.
Abolish the income tax and stop voting in cronies from political families.
Improve schools and recreational facilities so generational criminal behavior is mitigated.
Most of that isn't politically feasible....but clearly needed.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 3:34 pm to MarinaTigerEsq
Definitely need a new constitution and purging of the numerous committees strewn throughout our government. However, we have some more basic problems than that.
One, in particular, is our transportation infrastructure. You'd probably be surprised how important this is to relocation, expansion and/or investment decisions. The fact that we have only 4 lanes of interstate traffic between our two largest cities is a great example of our lack of vision. In almost all other US states, a minimum of 6 lanes exist between cities a fraction of the size of New Orleans and Baton Rouge.
The free flow of commerce is important. It is perhaps the most basic of all requirements for economic growth. And a trip down our most important arteries (I-10) is rife with congestion, delays and inexcusable bottlenecks.
One, in particular, is our transportation infrastructure. You'd probably be surprised how important this is to relocation, expansion and/or investment decisions. The fact that we have only 4 lanes of interstate traffic between our two largest cities is a great example of our lack of vision. In almost all other US states, a minimum of 6 lanes exist between cities a fraction of the size of New Orleans and Baton Rouge.
The free flow of commerce is important. It is perhaps the most basic of all requirements for economic growth. And a trip down our most important arteries (I-10) is rife with congestion, delays and inexcusable bottlenecks.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 3:35 pm to I B Freeman
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1) changing the legal system to loser pay like the Commonwealth countries have
2) end the income tax by moving more state functions to local governments and giving those governments more power to tax--this would negate the stupid tax exemptions we have now and end the welfare we hand out through tax credits. We could, for example, move all teacher pay to local governments.
3) reform property tax by ending ITEP and homestead exemption while rolling back millages to keep the collections the same
4) all education funding would be voucher giving all Louisiana families school choice
All would be amazing changes, but the legislature would never allow any of that.
Posted on 9/23/19 at 3:40 pm to TSmith
That’s a really good point. Is adding lanes economically feasible with all the overwater spans?
Posted on 9/23/19 at 3:41 pm to member12
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Most of that isn't politically feasible....but clearly needed.
Lol, you’re right- I chose to ignore that part of the inquiry because it makes the thought exercise depressing.
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