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re: Well played Cantor Fitzgerald (Howard Lutnick’s hedge fund), well played.

Posted on 2/20/26 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 12:59 pm to
SCOTUS said nothing about refunding rhe $
Posted by TigerMan327
Elsewhere
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:14 pm to
Any facts besides this random tweet?

If you google his company was accused of this last August and then refuted it in the washington post last september and said they never bought any rights.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5901 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

You are a Chinese company.

You sell 100 million to the U.S.

You are charged 10% tariffs.

You send your 10 million dollar tax bill to U.S. customs.

Cantor Fitzgerald approaches you and says, "we will pay you 3 million right now for rights to any future tariff refunds you have paid".

You say, "great, I'll take the 3 million right now".

Fast forward to today. SCOTUS rules the tariffs are illegal and you deserve a refund.

But, you now do not own the rights to the refund. Cantor Fitzgerald owns the rights to the refund.

The 10 million dollar refund gets sent to Cantor Fitzgerad.

Profit 7 million.


1. This arraignment also helps the political fallout for the administration. Sending refunds to chinese companies is horrific politics. Sending checks to hedge funds is bad to neutral politics.

2. This is an amazing transfer of wealth from American tax payers to foreign companies and hedge funds. In your explanation, which is correct, American business and customers paid $10,000,000 in additional costs that are routed through the US treasury and back out to a foreign company ($3,000,000) and a hedge fund ($7,000,000). The signature economic policy of MAGA, folks.


Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23061 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:20 pm to
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Not gambling when you know what cards are coming next


Please do tell. Appears POTUS Trump played you again!!

He is the MAN!!
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3624 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:28 pm to
Are you retarded?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11357 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:29 pm to
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But if I had insider knowledge of how things would shake out that I learned at Friday afternoon cocktail party, yeah my risk assessment would justify 20-30 cents on the dollar price.


It depends when they were bought. Right after liberation day? After the first suit was filed? After arguments were heard?

How much have other people offered for tariff rebates? Was his perceived risk greater than normally accepted risk for such a transaction?

I need more information before I just assume it was insider knowledge. At least prove the timeline makes it likely.

The OP says "after liberation day." That makes it sound like it was directly after. If someone asks when 9/11 happened, you don't say "after WW2."

I want Lutnick gone for other reasons, but I'd still like accusations to be somewhat verifiable.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3624 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:29 pm to
This is an old story that was already responded to by CF that it wasn’t true.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65409 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 2:46 pm to
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Please do tell. Appears POTUS Trump played you again!!

He is the MAN!!
So, Lutnick commits a felony and that somehow means Trump owned the panicans or whatever?

Y'all are spinning into madness. You sense that something is terribly wrong but you have to keep doing mental gymnastics to maintain the Caesar you've created.

How about we don't let people in the admin. do insider trading? Is that too much to ask or is that a panican maneuver?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:45 pm to
Bump:

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This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23061 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 4:53 pm to
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How about we don't let people in the admin. do insider trading? Is that too much to ask or is that a panican maneuver?


I see you are still holding your breath. Nancy Pelosi does not own Cantor Fitzgerald.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65409 posts
Posted on 2/20/26 at 5:30 pm to
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Nancy Pelosi does not own Cantor Fitzgerald.
She's also not involved with the Trump admin.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
23061 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 9:58 am to
Keep Holding Your Breath!!



quote:

Cantor did consider the product — which has existed for years and was a humming trade on Wall Street during Trump’s first-term tariff push — but decided against it after weighing the political sensitivities, according to a senior banker familiar with the matter.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65409 posts
Posted on 2/21/26 at 10:00 am to
Oh, well if Liz Hoffman over at Semafor says so.
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