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We keep hearing Russians invaded our election process / democracy

Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53774 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:11 pm
But the Democrats nor the GOP leaders never cite a single detailed example.

All I have at this point is, the DNC paid a Russian associate tied with Steele and Ohr to drum up dirt, albeit fake dirt...

which sparked off the "justified" investigation "Trump might be an agent of Russia"


so I will ask it plainly

What did the Russians do, to influence the 2016 election?

1.
2.
3.
4. Hacked Hillary's email server in 2015?????

what actions did "Russians" do that impacted our elections? What are they?

Did Putin know about it? Was he behind it?

or are these acts just Russian Civilians? Again which actions?

All I see is American oppo research conducted by Democrats against their Political opponent as the trigger for all this "Malarkey".


I yield back
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 1:12 pm
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9605 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:17 pm to
They released wiki link emails the day of the “grab her in the pussy” video
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7748 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:18 pm to
Come on man. Muh Facebook ads. Clearly the difference maker.
Posted by Strophie
Member since Apr 2014
438 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:19 pm to
Well,

https://time.com/5565991/russia-influence-2016-election/

Many things, including: probing state voter databases; hacking the Clinton campaign; hacking the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee; hacking the DNC; hacking the campaigns of Graham, Rubio and other republican candidates; spreading millions and millions of dollars of propaganda ads on social media; staging physical events in the U.S.; and setting up meetings with the Trump campaign, among other things.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
60063 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:19 pm to
If Seth Rich turns out to be Russian, then your #4 has merit.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12576 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:21 pm to
So everyone...everyone, acknowledges that Russia has always and very actively tried to meddle in 2016 campaigns and election. Everyone acknowledges that both campaigns were attacked...why has no one asked, why was there no investigation or where is the evidence of fbi investigation into the Hillary campaign???

Couldn’t tell Trump about possible Russia meddling Bc they weren’t sure If he was compromised...even though no evidence suggested this...ok, where is the evidence or anything about looking into dnc or Hillary campaign???
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62453 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:24 pm to
Downer, the Australian who’s info started Crossfire Hurricane funneled 25 million to Clinton Foundation . Russians may have interfered, but everything Trump seems to have Hillary all over it. Dossier, etc...
This post was edited on 12/11/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:26 pm to
1. The IRA (Internet Research Agency) a non-government entity spent $100,000 trolling on Facebook to misinform voters.

That’s pretty much it.

Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4473 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

millions of dollars of propaganda ads on social media


They only spent a thousand not millions on Facebook ads.

"Not one vote that was cast, was changed." Barak Obama.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26783 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:27 pm to
quote:

Couldn’t tell Trump about possible Russia meddling Bc they weren’t sure If he was compromised


pretty sure Trump's a Russian agent.



right? Manchurian candidate. sleeper, his whole life is a ruse. :helicopter:
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
7819 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:32 pm to
Biggest fake news story of our times.

Facebook ads and propaganda is not election interference.

Not one vote was hacked or changed.
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12576 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

pretty sure Trump's a Russian agent.


That wasn’t my statement, that was stated in hearings today. It was laughable.
Posted by swamie
Where opportunity meets hard work
Member since Jan 2007
27253 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:34 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/26/20 at 11:07 am
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4505 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:39 pm to


This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 11:18 am
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34114 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:44 pm to
Obfuscate and obscure is the Democrat playbook.

It's not important that the DNC paid for the phony dossier, or that Bruce Orr was way out of his purview at the Justice Department, or that the FBI targeted and illegally spied on associates of a Presidential Campaign.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
2763 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:51 pm to
Everyone seems to overlook that the RNC was also hacked and that adds were bought both for and against Hillary and for BLM and for Trump.

They were trying to sow discord in the electoral process and ended up getting the biggest boost from Dems. Democrats actions after the election were more detrimental to the integrity of the electoral process than any Russian agent.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21913 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

They released wiki link emails the day of the “grab her in the pussy” video


Other way around.

WikiLeaks had already announced the emails to be released and the grab tape was put out to take over the headlines.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26783 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

That wasn’t my statement, that was stated in hearings today. It was laughable.


oh no.... I know it wasn't you. they've circled back to that idea though.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53774 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

pretty sure Trump's a Russian agent.


McCabe said it on CNN..."I am still not sure President Trump isn't an agent of Russia"
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53774 posts
Posted on 12/11/19 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

They were trying to sow discord in the electoral process and ended up getting the biggest boost from Dems. Democrats actions after the election were more detrimental to the integrity of the electoral process than any Russian agent.



But look at the endless memes we get all year long...

Are they suggesting only Russians pump it out to create discord.?

I would argue our politicians and media do 99% of the discord...
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