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re: We have a great economy, folks.

Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:00 am to
Posted by Walkthedawg
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Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:00 am to
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:01 am to
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you got that right crackerjack

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Wolf Messing


How ya doing Harry hill? Since your fake British alter got banned you decided to make another?

After reading your post history, you’re 100% an alter. You got called out on it early, and then went and edited half of your post.

You should really do a better job at hiding the fact that you’re an alter account, crackerjack.

Your MO is quite easy to pick up on, crackerjack
This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 10:06 am
Posted by Mulat
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:04 am to
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The only people poo pooing this fact have put politics over their country.



These are the Anti-Constitutionalist. We need to expel those from our Country who will not Pledge Allegiance to our Country and its Constitution. Including loss of Citizenship.

Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52841 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:05 am to
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so what i am saying is less money dont work with more spending



1) I think there should be LESS spending. I do not mean "baseline budget" spending cuts, either (Project to spend 10% more. But, only spend 7% more...therefore, 3% cut). I mean actual - YOY spending LESS than the previous.


2) I suggest that there IS a relationship where cutting tax INCREASES the revenue. It isn't absolute and not always the right idea (revenue related only). But, I think the free market multiplies money better and more aggressively than Gov spending.


Remember...taking funds FROM gov is NOT taking spending / financing out of the ECONOMY. So, IF we indeed literally reduce the Fed Gov revenue by 100B....that 100B isn't buried in a yard. It is injected into the economy. It is simply spent on the things the PEOPLE value directly and not what a group of asshats 'value' in regards to what gets them elected or their pandering "we know what's best for you" way.



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without calling me names


not my style
This post was edited on 7/27/18 at 10:08 am
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:07 am to
posts like this would be a lot better if some stats were thrown in.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:08 am to
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A recession is on its way

stahp
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116783 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:16 am to
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4.1 GNP......


OK, someone needs to explain something to me. I thought I paid a lot of attention to the news but apparently I missed The Trump Stimulus Package.

Yahoo News said the 4.1 is due to the Stimulus Package and once it runs out then growth will stop. When was this package enacted and what spending did it include? TIA.
Posted by Wolf Messing
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Member since Feb 2018
621 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:21 am to
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BlackHelicopterPilot


cut taxes and everybody has more money to buy stuff makes more revenues more people would be buying stuff then you need more stuff to sale and all the stuff that people buy is going to go up in price then they are not making money from taxes to use to pay debt the companies selling the stuff just make more money what you buying i think you right that goverment should be spending less money
Posted by TigerBait1971
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Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:23 am to
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:24 am to
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Yahoo News said the 4.1 is due to the Stimulus Package

i doubt they did, but
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and once it runs out then growth will stop. When was this package enacted and what spending did it include

the last omnibus increased discretionary spending about 13%
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:25 am to
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cut taxes and everybody has more money to buy stuff makes more revenues more people would be buying stuff then you need more stuff to sale and all the stuff that people buy is going to go up in price then they are not making money from taxes to use to pay debt the companies selling the stuff just make more money what you buying i think you right that goverment should be spending less money




If you read this with a Russian accent, it makes you go hmmmm...
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116783 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:25 am to
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cut taxes and everybody has more money to buy stuff makes more revenues more people would be buying stuff then you need more stuff to sale and all the stuff that people buy is going to go up in price then they are not making money from taxes to use to pay debt the companies selling the stuff just make more money what you buying i think you right that goverment should be spending less money


I bet you $100 you cannot diagram that sentence.
Posted by Wolf Messing
Gore-Kalevariya
Member since Feb 2018
621 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:27 am to
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BlackHelicopterPilot


you probably going to say that they companies will make more money but will have pay more taxes for all stuff they sale but most states give those companies large tax break to do business in there state may not affect fedral tax but would affect state tax so companies get rich why states lose out on taxes
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116783 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:29 am to
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the last omnibus increased discretionary spending about 13%


What did they spend it on? When Obama did a stimulus it was supposed to build schools, roads and bridges.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
37749 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:31 am to
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Wolf Messing



Alllllllltttttterrrrr


Allllllllllttttterrrrrr

Alllllllltttterrrrrrr

Alter alert alter alert alter alert.

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30543 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:31 am to
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29355 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:34 am to
Wolf - Laffer Curve. Learn it.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:36 am to
defense iirc
Posted by Wolf Messing
Gore-Kalevariya
Member since Feb 2018
621 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:40 am to
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mtntiger


The Laffer curve as presented is simplistic in that it assumes a single tax rate and a single labor supply. Actual systems of public finance are more complex, and there is serious doubt about the relevance of considering a single marginal tax rate.[4] In addition, revenue may well be a multivalued function of tax rate; for instance, an increase in tax rate to a certain percentage may not result in the same revenue as a decrease in tax rate to the same percentage (a kind of hysteresis). Furthermore, the Laffer curve does not take explicitly into account the nature of the tax avoidance taking place. It is possible that if all producers are endowed with two survival factors in the market (ability to produce efficiently and ability to avoid tax), then the revenues raised under tax avoidance can be greater than without avoidance, and thus the Laffer curve maximum is found to be farther right than thought. The reason for this result is that if producers with low productive abilities (high production costs) tend to have strong avoidance abilities as well, a uniform tax on producers actually becomes a tax that discriminates on the ability to pay.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 7/27/18 at 10:46 am to
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defense iirc


Unions actually. Propped up Unions with the trillion dollar stimulus using excuse of during down economy would provide safety net for union members. Would provide union workers with union jobs that never materialized.
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