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re: We don't have enough black hospital lab techs

Posted on 3/1/21 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by NineLineBind
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 1:28 pm to
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The technologist do the complex work in the lab while the technicians do the more mundane.


I didn't realize that. The two terms for 'tech' could be confusing. My wife just says 'I'm in the chemistry lab'.

Technologist/technician can be confusing. The terms are used in many fields also.

A way I think of the difference is...
...a technologist designs the car.
...a technician performs maintenance on the car.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21878 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 1:33 pm to
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See, you're ok with racism, presumably because of your race.


lol I'm white. False equivalency because sports and real jobs have nothing to do with each other. Trying to draw those dotted lines is sophomoric at best, most likely to try and get a rise out of people. Sports is physical, professions (this one in particular) are not.

If I was angry that would be because I care. I really don't. give a shite, but facts mean white dudes are slower than black dudes overall.

The same way I don't care what a cornerback's race is, I don't care what a lab tech's race is. Do they meet the requirements to do the job or not? Reading into it any more and foisting your own opinion into that statement is where the racism lies.

If that makes you upset, then ok. I don't have to care. I threw in my opinion.

Seahorn was not that good. If he was black, there is a statistically likely chance he would have been a hair faster and more agile, thus better at the position. There is no measurable to explain the lab techs other than how well they do at their job, thus race shouldn't be an issue if they qualify (assuming their criminal records, etc, are equal)

Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/1/21 at 1:47 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/12/21 at 11:03 am
Posted by L.A.
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Member since Aug 2003
65454 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 1:49 pm to
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give scholarships to black kids
Aka systemic racism
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21878 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 1:56 pm to
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Because, mentally, we're all even, right?


Yes we are, from a mental capacity standpoint. Culturally is where the rub is. Culture and race are close but not the same. Dumb arse whites raised by other dumb arse whites are just as dumb as any other race if raised by dumb asses.

That's why affirmative action is BS. I don't disagree there. Where my original comment came from what that in sports I don't give a shite what color the player is. David Robinson is my favorite NBA player of all time, and he couldn't look more physically different than I do. That fact of appearance is neither here nor there to me.

That attitude extends to other professions, but I do acknowledge that some races get more help than others. The issue I have with it is that race has nothing to do with it. Culture and upbringing do.

Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
25253 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:12 pm to
then perhaps more black people should goto school to learn to be a lab tech then the numbers would go up

he let's hire a bunch of people who are not qualified to be in this position to show that we care about a specific race!!
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:15 pm to
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Their goal is to recruit and give scholarships to black kids so they can achieve equity


Can white only ones be created to make sure this "equity" stays equal?
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7125 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:18 pm to
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Wife just got an email announcing the creation of the Society of Black Pathologists. It's based in Chicago. Their goal is to recruit and give scholarships to black kids so they can achieve equity.


I get all sorts of emails related to whatever flavor of the month it is. They always include something about black, women, native American, etc history month in the subject, so it's easy to identify and just delete those.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29443 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:21 pm to
#notenoughwhitesinthenba

Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:24 pm to
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Their goal is to recruit and give scholarships to black kids so they can achieve equity.


Good luck with that.
Posted by themunch
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Member since Jan 2007
71366 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:29 pm to
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because sports and real jobs have nothing to do with each other.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21387 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 2:30 pm to
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Wife just got an email announcing the creation of the Society of Black Pathologists. It's based in Chicago. Their goal is to recruit and give scholarships to black kids so they can achieve equity.


What about the equity gap in oil rig roughnecks?

We need more equity in global high tech companies.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 3:05 pm to
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Because, mentally, we're all even, right?

Yes we are, from a mental capacity standpoint.


You don’t believe there are differences in intelligence among people? It’s pretty obvious we are born with variations in mental capacity, if you are born with a large mental capacity then sure, it is up to the individual to fully utilize it, culture, and home environment can have a lot to do with how far that is carried out. For those born with less mental capacity, there is a limit as to how much shear will power, and culture can do, their mental bucket will only hold so much. There is a lot more than just culture and upbringing that determines if someone becomes a janitor or a neurosurgeon.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
116802 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 3:05 pm to
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What about the equity gap in oil rig roughnecks?


My dad was a roughneck. And I found out after he died how muscle power saved him from WWII. In 1940 those rigs didn't have much tech. It was raw muscle. So, it was an industry that was vital to our war effort that could not be taken up by women like they did in assembly line work.

Dad was told he had a bad back and couldn't be drafted. He did not have a bad back. It was the excuse the govt used to keep men in oil production out there on the rigs.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108280 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 3:09 pm to
I heard Wes Welker is starting a foundation to create equity at the WR position and recruit more white guys to the position.
Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
13653 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 4:05 pm to
But first, they have to do math not using their fingers!
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24151 posts
Posted on 3/1/21 at 4:47 pm to
Yeah. Nowadays the Med tech (with 4 year degrees) are called “ lab scientists”. Technicians are called techs. And phlebotomist , phlebotomist. No one in the lab would call a phlebotomist a tech. Again, it’s a profession to avoid.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21878 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 6:56 am to
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There is a lot more than just culture and upbringing that determines if someone becomes a janitor or a neurosurgeon.


No shite. Every statistical group has outliers either way, but on average, humans have the same capacity, no matter what race. On large scale averages, culture has more impact IMO. I'm sure there are plenty of dumb Asians, but their culture is geared to squeeze as much out of what they have as possible, whereas white culture for instance is not as good at that aspect, in general. That is my point. I've worked shite jobs with black dudes who are smart as frick, but they had no education or drive to do anything with it. I've also worked good jobs with black people at executive levels who were easily the smartest people in the room, but then you also got to hear about how their parents focused on education and hard work instead of finding their next gub'mint check opportunity.

Their culture in their home is what differentiated them from their peers. Apply that logic over a few million people and you'll see what my angle is.

On large groups, culture has more impact than capacity. Change the culture, and you'll change a race. Easier said than done but that's the idea. Millions of blacks do it every day, because it starts in their own home with their kids. The issue is they are in a minority within their own race, thus the results we see./
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
5617 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 7:00 am to
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because black dudes are naturally faster than white dudes.


Is your nickname “the Greek”, by chance??
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21878 posts
Posted on 3/2/21 at 7:58 am to
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Is your nickname “the Greek”, by chance??


no but my first name is James.
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