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re: "We are not nation building, we are killing terrorists"
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
We're nation building, man
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Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:31 pm to rbWarEagle
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Don't get your hopes up.
I don't base my emotional state on the words politicians who send men and women off to war.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I feel good right now
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:31 pm to stat19
That's good 
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:33 pm to Markie812
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You can't kill an ideology with bombs and bullets.
Oh, but you can. How else would you kill them?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:33 pm to Armchair_QB
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Ok. How do you kill it?
Ruthless, unyielding brutality & physical punishment.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:33 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It's over Trumpites.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Glad you're coming around, Roger.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:35 pm to rbWarEagle
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Glad you're coming around, Roger.
What? I've never supported Trump
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:35 pm to Armchair_QB
quote:By building up a nation.
Ok. How do you kill it?
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:36 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It sounds like Trump's saying we should stay because we're pot committed. We've spent so much time, money, and blood that we can't leave until we've got something to show for it.
I didn't actually hear a compelling reason for why continuing the war is in our vital national interests or how we have any strategy breakthroughs that will fundamentally alter the state of affairs or make any gains sustainable absent our permanent presence.
I understand that it's very difficult to make the call for pulling out knowing damn well that the government in Afghanistan will inevitably fall to the Taliban. It shows that we've basically squandered lives and treasure for at least the last 10 years over there, but at some point you have to face reality. The Taliban can live in the wilderness and fight for generations. We've given the Afghans every possible tool and advantage to fight them off. If they can't do it now, what good is us staying for another 2, 5, 10 years even? We will find ourselves facing the exact same dilemma IMO.
I didn't actually hear a compelling reason for why continuing the war is in our vital national interests or how we have any strategy breakthroughs that will fundamentally alter the state of affairs or make any gains sustainable absent our permanent presence.
I understand that it's very difficult to make the call for pulling out knowing damn well that the government in Afghanistan will inevitably fall to the Taliban. It shows that we've basically squandered lives and treasure for at least the last 10 years over there, but at some point you have to face reality. The Taliban can live in the wilderness and fight for generations. We've given the Afghans every possible tool and advantage to fight them off. If they can't do it now, what good is us staying for another 2, 5, 10 years even? We will find ourselves facing the exact same dilemma IMO.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Well, maybe not... but I despise that con man, so maybe you just seemed supportive through my lens . My bad.
. My bad.Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yea, I'll believe it when I see it.
The nation building aspect will not change.
The nation building aspect will not change.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:39 pm to tigerpawl
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You have to kill them all".
Have any of you Trumpzis ever actually seen a map of Afghanistan? the tribal region?
4,000 guys wont do shite, its not even a drop of water in the ocean.
What I'm hearing is a training mission, meaning 80% of our dead will be a result of the trainee shooting the trainer. This is a joke from a military standpoint.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:39 pm to member12
We have been killing terrorists for 16 years in Afghanistan and only spawned more by being there. This is more of the same with different words and it won't work but hell why not just send more of our troops who were toddlers when we entered the war to fight.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:40 pm to rbWarEagle
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Well, maybe not... but I despise that con man, so maybe you just seemed supportive through my lens . My bad.
Listen, I said Obama wasn't dangerous and got called a liberal. I said the Russians thing was just bitter losers and got called a Trumkin
Objectivity isn't respected, by anyone
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:41 pm to ChewyDante
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I didn't actually hear a compelling reason for why continuing the war is in our vital national interests or how we have any strategy breakthroughs that will fundamentally alter the state of affairs or make any gains sustainable absent our permanent presence.
Putting pressure on Pakistan is a new angle.
Also, he has unleashed battlefield officers and given them the ability to make live battle decisions, rather than wait for Washington approval. He did this months ago and it has been written about by MSM that it is admittedly paying great dividends.
It is also different to our previous administrations, as we aren't giving arbitrary timeline and announcing troop size.
Changing the pace and intensity and context of why we're there.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
You aren't a true american if you don't get called a liberal and trumpkin on the same day on this board.
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:42 pm to Tiguar
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You aren't a true american if you don't get called a liberal and trumpkin on the same day on this board
Then I'm American AF
Posted on 8/21/17 at 8:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Yes it is. Just not by most of the active people on this board.
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