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re: WATCH THREAD | DeSantis vs Newsom | The Great Red vs. Blue State Debate | Fox News

Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by Figgy
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:27 pm to
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It will convert nobody. People are again voting for or against Trump.


The fact that we have two of the leading governors from each party debating one another is a good thing. They each get a platform to talk up their successes up and to be challenged on their screw ups. We should be happy this is taking place. We need more of this stuff from our elected leaders. You really need to move on from making this about Trump. It's about the country and how we do things. We've become fricking Idiocracy and it's pathetic beyond belief. The widely held assumption is that Trump has the nomination wrapped up. Ron isn't staging a comeback based on tonight.
Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:30 pm to
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Ron isn't staging a comeback based on tonight.


This tonight is about 2028 with Ron.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 6:31 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:30 pm to
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The fact that we have two of the leading governors from each party debating one another is a good thing.


Two career politicians. You guys also put too much emphasis on people’s views on governors. People dgaf and mostly vote for their party while you think they are some super hero.
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:32 pm to
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You have to assume Ron has prepped for this as though he could end up reading his political obituary in the morning. He knows good and well what hes up against. Im pretty intrigued to see what his A game looks like in this situation

He should benefit from Hannity being the moderator and no audience. Whether just his A-game being enough is the question.

He needs to get a 100 on this test though, and hit the bonuses. Definitely do not leave any kind of wiggle room clips for the left media to pick out of, and especially NO gif material.

Newsome just needs to past the test, and have a few perfect clips for his team to throw around for the media to run with.
Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:32 pm to
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Two career politicians. You guys also put too much emphasis on people’s views on governors. People dgaf and mostly vote for their party while you think they are some super hero.


Trump is what is needed at the moment. Get over him being mean and all of that. We need someone that is straight forward and will right the wrong. He cannot and will not take over like Democrat’s think.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 6:40 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:33 pm to
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Posted by Figgy
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:33 pm to
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I’d rather hear about policy and what you WILL do.


As would I. I live in Cali so I already know what Gavin does with the help of the legislature. It's why I constantly warn of California going nationwide. Tonight, if things go well, might blunt his momentum if Biden drops out for 2024. Gavin in the White House with a majority in both chambers scares the hell out of me.

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Call out the Democrats! Their schite is not working and never will for the country.


Damn right.

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If Ron wants to be the big guy, tonight is where he needs to stand up.


I think Ron knows that it's over for the primary barring something happening in the courts. But he needs a strong showing tonight to show that he could be the guy starting in 2028.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 6:41 pm
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64414 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:33 pm to
Hey momen your wrong or lying I can tell anymore. Ron is not a career pol.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71510 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:35 pm to
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Ron is not a career pol.


Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
2324 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:35 pm to
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I dont care what yall think.
Hes a lightweight who is afraid to debate.


Posted by Chorizo chang
Statesboro
Member since Feb 2022
303 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:36 pm to
Newsomes canned response that he’s rehearsed in the mirror for the last month could potentially make someone’s eyes completely out of their head

“Running the 6th largest economy in the world is far too consuming for me to sit around considering hypotheticals and conspiracy theories. President Biden is doing an incredible job, I just spoke to him this morning. The guy I spoke to is certainly capable of continuing the important work he’s doing for another four years.”
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30201 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:36 pm to
Newsom and the other “high profile” Democrat politicians (potential candidates and “future of the party”) are too arrogant to legitimately succeed at anything. I mean, who in their right mind would actually believe that this is THE guy, the person who has endless negative material and information to advertise from his openly disastrous governorship. The best will be the video from the French Laundry restaurant chumming it up with a large group of people, sitting closely at their table, while having shut down and distanced the citizens of his state from the same personal interaction - all in the same week basically.

I don’t know how else to put it. That he’s blatantly a failure of a candidate a year ago is obvious enough that more people should probably see it. He’s got less of a shot than Biden even.
This post was edited on 11/30/23 at 6:37 pm
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:36 pm to
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Figgy


Excellent assessment.
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5181 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:41 pm to
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This tonight is about 2028 with Ron.



Trump will 100% run again in 2028 after he gets crushed by Biden again and we'll be hearing that 2028 is still Trump's turn.

Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71510 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:43 pm to
You realize it’s you guys who are the “it’s his turn” cult? Trumps too old, he’s lost, he can’t win the general…

Continue to be like Dems and accuse others the way you behave.
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5181 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:52 pm to
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You realize it’s you guys who are the “it’s his turn” cult?


No, it's not. DeSantis isn't owed a turn. No one is. We're not the ones saying that another candidate should've waited until 2028 because it's someone else's turn. It's Trump people doing that.

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Trumps too old


True. 78 year-olds, which he'll be in 2024, have no business being President.

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he’s lost


He did, which is why he's now unemployed. How he can even show his face in public after getting crushed by oatmeal brain is beyond me.

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he can’t win the general


Correct. He can't win a General Election now. He inspires too many people to crawl over broken glass to vote against him. His handpicked candidates lost numerous swing races in 2022.

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Continue to be like Dems


That would be Trump and his supporters. He essentially has been running a leftist campaign over the last year and his cult followers agree with everything he says.

-Cuomo and Newsom did better than DeSantis on Covid
-Stacey Abrams would be a better Governor than Brian Kemp
-Constantly praising Charlie Crist
-Parroting the 2012 Obama/Biden talking points on social security
-Rejoiced when Democrats won the Colorado Senate seat
-Sided with/defended Disney groomers against DeSantis
-Attacked pro-life Republicans
-Celebrated the endorsement of BLM, a terrorist group
-Said he could never hit back at Gavin Newsom



Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71510 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:54 pm to
You right now

Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:55 pm to
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Trump will 100% run again in 2028 after he gets crushed by Biden again and we'll be hearing that 2028 is still Trump's turn.


This has to be sarcasm. Trump will go one more time around. 2024. Make it count this time.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64414 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:57 pm to
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-Cuomo and Newsom did better than DeSantis on Covid
-Stacey Abrams would be a better Governor than Brian Kemp
-Constantly praising Charlie Crist
-Parroting the 2012 Obama/Biden talking points on social security
-Rejoiced when Democrats won the Colorado Senate seat
-Sided with/defended Disney groomers against DeSantis
-Attacked pro-life Republicans
-Celebrated the endorsement of BLM, a terrorist group
-Said he could never hit back at Gavin Newsom


Has any dnc operative or Trump supporter refuted any of these?
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5181 posts
Posted on 11/30/23 at 6:58 pm to
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You right now



Ron isn't owed a turn. The only people saying it's someone's turn are Trump cultists. Very telling that you can't actually refute anything I said.
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