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re: Was the original Lynyrd Skynyrd anti-gun?

Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:41 am to
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:41 am to
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Ehh, that's not terrible stance coming from a celebrity. Especially considering the 60s/70s had a major legislative push to have guns regulated more. He still at least recognized self defense and hunting as major uses of guns. Van Zant seemed to just dislike petty murders. I have a hard time believing he would release such a song today.



If he did he would certainly have to find a specific audience to play for....like the Dixie Chicks do....because for sure and certain it would become a political issue in today's climate and those of us on the right wouldn't have anything to do with such garbage.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 7:46 am to
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It would take a while,but eventually,a big % of the cheap guns that are already on the street would become useless,because of their low quality. How many gangsters start their career with a $1,000 dollar 1911 in their hand? I doubt there are many of them.

I'm still not sold (no pun). Criminals that can't afford a gun in the US will simply steal them from law abiding citizens or get them from our DOJ via Fast & Furious.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24291 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:22 am to
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There's NO WAY RVZ said this. At the time of his death he had 1 daughter and she was very young & he had no grandkids.


You are correct. That is a quote from Ronnie's brother Johnnie (who took his place in LS) from 2015.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24291 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:25 am to
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Dude was a commie....


Here is the whole story you conveniently left out.....commie.

The story behind SNS

Posted by finchmeister08
Member since Mar 2011
35640 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 8:44 am to
guys, guys, guys. STAWP!

we all know tuesday's gone was the best skynyrd song to ever grace our ears.

Posted by NewbombII
Member since Nov 2014
4683 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:05 am to
"The song was about cheap pistols,which are still a problem.
I am a strong supporter of The 2nd amendment,but I think a handgun should be high quality,and expensive to obtain,that way,there is automatic responsibility built in to it,because the person buying it,is more likely to be a responsible person.
I am sure that some people won't agree with me on this."

So you are an elitist who believes only the rich should be able to defend themselves?
Posted by CptRusty
Basket of Deplorables
Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:12 am to
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I think a handgun should be high quality,and expensive to obtain,that way,there is automatic responsibility built in to it because the person buying it,is more likely to be a responsible person.


possibly the shoddiest piece of "logic" I've ever read. Do you know how many handguns are stolen every year?

quote:

I am sure that some people won't agree with me on this.



If you are advocating for some kind of "handgun tax" to artificially inflate the price, then yes, any reasonable 2A supporter will vehemently disagree with you.



Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:13 am to
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The Ballad of Curtis Lowe is one of my faves


But Simple Man ftw!
Posted by Vino24
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2016
1596 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:17 am to
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If he did he would certainly have to find a specific audience to play for....like the Dixie Chicks do....because for sure and certain it would become a political issue in today's climate and those of us on the right wouldn't have anything to do with such garbage.


Yeah, and as Pettifogger said, the issue is completely polarized today. People probably thought nothing of the song back then.
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37630 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:29 am to
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Yeah, and as Pettifogger said, the issue is completely polarized today. People probably thought nothing of the song back then.


I wonder if the same mouth breathers out there and on this forum would turn on Lynyrd Skynrd the same way the did on the Dixie Chicks for expressing their opinion.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:33 am to
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I wonder if the same mouth breathers out there and on this forum would turn on Lynyrd Skynrd the same way the did on the Dixie Chicks for expressing their opinion.


Thankfully the left has been super great about ignoring business people and celebrities who support Trump.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:34 am to
Eat shite skyward did nothing like those bitches

Did they ever do a song against putting gas in an airplane?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:35 am to
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I wonder if the same mouth breathers out there and on this forum would turn on Lynyrd Skynrd the same way the did on the Dixie Chicks for expressing their opinion.

I can't speak for anyone but me but their opinion wasn't the problem; my problem was WHERE they said it.....in Europe! You noticed they didn't talk shite about W (who I'm not a fan of) in TX.
Posted by Vino24
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2016
1596 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:35 am to
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Did they ever do a song against putting gas in an airplane?


What song is this?
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:43 am to
I saw a documentary recently that was done years ago when more of the band members were still alive. They said they really were pissed at Neil Young and wrote Sweet Home Alabama because they felt like good people in the South were being crapped on by Yankees like Neil Young.

Neil Young in the end said he was mostly wrong for crapping on Southerners, so I guess this "feud" wasn't a bad one. They respected one another despite their original disagreement.
Posted by GoT1de
Alabama
Member since Aug 2009
5041 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:53 am to
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I wonder if the same mouth breathers out there and on this forum would turn on Lynyrd Skynrd the same way the did on the Dixie Chicks for expressing their opinion.


Hard to say... one way will be to see going forward, how many acts that spoke out against Trump see's their career's die the same death as the Dixie Chicks did.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:57 am to
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Neil Young in the end said he was mostly wrong for crapping on Southerners, so I guess this "feud" wasn't a bad one. They respected one another despite their original disagreement


Honestly, I came late to the Skynyrd thing. I was born in '78. I thought that they hated Neil Young until I heard a Drive By Truckers song that explained the myth. After that I double checked and it turns out it was a faux fued.
It's a really interesting piece of rock history.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:02 am to
I don't remember exactly how the band explained it, but I'm under the impression that they never really hated Neil Young, they just strongly disagreed with him putting down Southerners and wrote a song defending them.

I'd have to go watch the documentary again to hear it in their own words, but that's what I seem to remember.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 10:03 am
Posted by Geauxin off
Member since Aug 2009
2096 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:03 am to
Alton: You hear me, bitch?
Leigh Anne Touhy: No, you hear me, BITCH!. You threaten my son, you threaten me. You so much as cross into downtown, you will be sorry. I'm in a prayer group with the D.A., I'm a member of the N.R.A. and I'm always packing.
Alton: Whatchu packin? .22? A little Saturday night special?
Leigh Anne Touhy: Yep. And it shoots just fine every other day of the week too.
Posted by Vino24
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2016
1596 posts
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:05 am to
Totally forgot about that part of the movie!

And his name is Alton
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