re: Want to retire at 25? Go military

I can’t imagine wanting to retire at 25…..would have to be a wuss to do that…

I think a lot of people don’t know stuff about the military and misunderstand what they hear. What page was it on?

Without knowing the context or seeing the post, yes I would say on the face of if that that poster was either lying or just not understanding what he hears his employees saying.

I would say he’s probably wrong. I’d have to see the post. But I doubt he just set out to shite on veterans including his son just bc he hates veterans.

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Do y’all have to prove y’all aren’t drinking and that type of stuff to receive the payments?

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How do I prove that I'm not drinking alcohol or smoking weed?

My husband also spent 23 years in the Navy - most of that flying Tomcats off aircraft carriers. Guess how much he got for disability? Drumroll…… a whopping 20% and that was for a knee operation they really screwed up and the one that everybody who was ever on a carrier seems to get - tinnitus. That’s it. He definitely should have qualified for more. Hell - just his damn neck still gives him problems from all the G’s he pulled. But he never went to the doc back then unless he absolutely had to because he didn’t want to be marked med down and be unable to fly. He said that was pretty standard with all his squadron mates, as well. I remember when he was getting ready to get out of the military the civil service folks on base actually offered classes basically teaching them how to work the system to get more money - but because he had never documented any of his medical problems back when he was flying he wouldn’t have gotten much of anything had he even pursued it anyway since he didn’t have any kind of medical “proof” the navy caused any of his issues (blown ear drum, concussions, back issues, etc.).

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Idk what his injuries are but my BIL retired after 23 years of being a navy pilot. 23 years of landing in aircraft carriers....lots of issues come with that.

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Please elaborate. (BTW - Not questioning, just curious.)

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I get both sides of what has been said across these two threads, but I take exception to those that think severe injuries don't happen in training or daily tasks.

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No one here thinks these things don't happen. We all recognize training and even moving shelters can be hazardous work.

But there are two common reasons for the '25 yo' military retiree to post something like this on social media. He could have been joking, being absurd about his situation. Most, with a presence of mind, inform people what the are joking about.

Or he was boasting.

It may be me, but I find most who go through something like this, don't boast about it -- as in 'look at my paycheck, bitches'.

All of us, vets and non-vets have an equal voice.

PS - Thanks for your service.

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I mean you did say this:
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Those people are intentionally telling lies to turn public sentiment against veterans

Which sounds like you are assigning an extremely malicious purpose behind their comments

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That is a statement I stand by and will defend. You are the one making the leap from “they are intentionally lying to turn public sentiment against veterans” to “I think they hate veterans.”

An insurance company does not have to hate injured claimants to deliberately convince the public that disability fraud is rampant. Paying fewer claims is motive enough. In other words, trying to turn people against a group does not require hating that group. It only requires perceiving there is something to gain from doing it.

I actually think the motive is usually far more boring and mundane than hatred. It could be board regulars trying to conform to the perceived groupthink. It could be dissatisfaction with their own lives creating a need for scapegoats. After all, It is easier to believe you are unhappy, underpaid, or unappreciated because someone else is “drinking your milkshake” than to confront the fact that the world is unfair, that some of your own choices mattered, or that the politicians (virtually all of them, even the ones you like) are robbing you blind and blaming your neighbor for their theft.

You keep assigning the “they hate vets” argument to me even though I have never made it. I have explained that distinction at least five times. You even acknowledged it, apologized for mischaracterizing me, and then accused me of the same thing later in the very same post. That is genuinely baffling.

I do not think most of them consciously hate veterans and yet my statement is still accurate. They ARE making outlandish claims that they know are false, or at minimum, do not know are true. They ARE doing it intentionally regardless of your naive belief that they're all just misremembering. Those lies ARE encouraging resentment toward veterans and damaging public perception of them.

That's what Ive actually said without you trying to fill in the gaps with assumptions. None of that requires hatred to be the underlying motive.

I do not know how to make the distinction any clearer.