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re: Wa State AG Warns Journalists Investigating Somali Daycares is Potential Hate Crime Charge

Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:56 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:56 am to
Neither does a journalist from CNN, but it really doesn’t matter. These businesses were shuttered during their own stated business hours. All this is happening in the backdrop of fraud convictions in these very programs in this same community. Then some were caught lying about it all.

To say that’s not relevant and extremely suspicious is just fricking stupid. The entire country is talking about it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:57 am to
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He mentioned that Shirley was not a Journalist.

Did he? Or was he referencing the people trying to recreate the virality that Shirley was able to accomplish? Which post specifically references Shirley?

quote:

So, I presented an example of what Liberals think passes for journalism.

Irrelevant whataboutism that nobody has defended. Your windmill.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 11:59 am to
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Irrelevant whataboutism that nobody has defended. Your windmill.




More projection from SFP…
This post was edited on 1/1/26 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:01 pm to
SFP is perfectly consistent because not defending CNN is the same as attacking tf out of Nick Shirley.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:02 pm to
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BigMuffaletta ... too dumb to understand both what's being discussed and the words you type
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467584 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:04 pm to
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SFP is perfectly consistent because not defending CNN is the same as attacking tf out of Nick Shirley.


Who is attacking Nick Shirley? Go search the thread for references to "Shirley".

Because the only people who keep bringing him up are the MAGA people, not those who clearly were discussing those trying to mimic Shirley

See:

quote:

hese vloggers trying to mimic Shirley are not proving they're not daycare centers.


LINK

The Strawman is strong.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:06 pm to
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That doesn't mean that harassment-related crimes aren't able to be prosecuted there


I mean I guess in a world where men can be women, a business having a someone come and inquire about their services can be harassment.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:07 pm to
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What did Woodward and Bernstein have to go on? A simple robbery? "Hey you two!! Leave it to the police!!"
NO ONE is arguing against continuing investigation.

The question presented ITT is whether banging on doors and otherwise harassing people constitutes a valid, journalistic investigation ... and whether it violates OTHER laws designed to protect members of the public.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:07 pm to
Harassing!

Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16431 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:08 pm to
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Then he's retarded because this has always been the domain of courts.


Which you continue to ignore yourself as the status of citizen journalists. I've posted it twice already.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46311 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:09 pm to
Who was that journalist from Politico on X who said that Somalis should use stand your ground laws against people like Shirley?

That’s real journalism!
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:11 pm to
We have idiots claiming harassment and badgering for simply showing up at a fake daycare and asking questions.

A small step and they will justify shooting someone.

Because they aren't a member of the MSM who happen to have lied to the public for decades
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:13 pm to
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quote:

very yahoo with a cell phone cam is not a "journalist."
Yet, a CNN reporter who calls up a Mn Somali Daycare and asks if it’s legit and takes them at their word IS considered journalism??
And after that telephone call, a REAL journalist sits down at her computer and spends twenty hours doing actual research.

Rando with cell phone cam posts a video 30 seconds later.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467584 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:14 pm to
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having a someone come and inquire about their services can be harassment.

It's going to be fact-dependent and a case by case.

If the "journalist" asks a question, is told to leave, and leaves, then no.

If they persist, then it opens the door depending on their actions.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46311 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:15 pm to
His actions are no different than any other investigative journalists’ actions.

You insisting its ackshywully harassment doesn’t change that. Unless you want to charge them all investigative journalists with hate crimes?
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2421 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:15 pm to
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To say that’s not relevant and extremely suspicious is just fricking stupid
NO ONE here is saying that.

The issue ITT is whether the state AG was out-of-bounds when warning the random TikTok yahoos that they better not cross the line and break the law.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21627 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:16 pm to
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quote:
How could it not be the latter?


It may be your usage, but you can't just go bust into a home daycare and expect to be permitted in for about 50 reasons. The security and privacy of the children alone should make this obvious


New year, but same ole idiocy from you!
Your a fricking goofball.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467584 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:17 pm to
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His actions are no different than any other investigative journalists’ actions.


But, again, that investigative journalist likely has a lot more meat on the bone.

Put it this way. Assume that these were legit home daycares. Would you consider it journalism if the crazies kept interfering with their business/caring for children if they had nothing other than race to fall back on?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297988 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:18 pm to
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Would you consider it journalism if the crazies kept interfering with their business/caring for children


How much time is he spending at these businesses?
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2421 posts
Posted on 1/1/26 at 12:18 pm to
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SFP is perfectly consistent because not defending CNN is the same as attacking tf out of Nick Shirley
I cannot speak for SFP, buy I have had positive things to say about Shirley in another thread.

He is nudging the line between internet glory seeking and actual journalism, but I think he manages to stay on the correct side of that line.

Unfortunately, it appears that many of his imitators are walking right over that line without a second glance.
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