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re: Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Something doesn't sit right about this fellow.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:20 am to BarcaBlaugranafan
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:20 am to BarcaBlaugranafan
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Quit listening to progressive Christians and read the Bible, Old and New Testaments for yourself and you will see that we are right. And it's NOT a theory from the 1800s.
Get out of here with this elitist bullcrap. Do you really think I would have such strong opinions on this if I hadnt read the bible(the new testament particularly) many times through?
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:22 am to BarcaBlaugranafan
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He's someone who will rise out of nowhere and likely of Jewish descent out of Europe.
Cite scripture for this
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:25 am to SocraticTiger
Considering you figured it out within 2 weeks of his ascent to the dark throne, I'm going to guess it's not him.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:33 am to SocraticTiger
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Volodymyr Zelenskyy. Something doesn't sit right about this fellow.
I haven’t a clue if the name is common or what it means, but Volodymyr is awfully similar to Holodomor. Probably a nothingburger.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:28 am to lechateau
Yes because most critics of the Bible don't bother reading it.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:34 am to lechateau
To say that the antichrist has come and gone is to dismiss most of Biblical prophecy. So no, the antichrist is yet to come. Plus the Book of Revelation was written during John's vision in 90AD and Nero died in 68 AD. Even though there were many mentions of the antichrist before Nero, John's mention of the antichrist was after.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:43 am to SocraticTiger
Oh FFS
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:43 am to BarcaBlaugranafan
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Yes because most critics of the Bible don't bother reading it.
Oh because I have a different interpretation(one that is more literal to Jesus' actual words and less speculative) I am a critic of the Bible? Ok...
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:43 am to lechateau
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and Nero definitely fit the description of the beast. I think the prophecy of the antichrist has come and gone.
You’re using a western view of prophecy. Jewish prophecy is frequently repeating patterns, not just “this will happen in the future”. Think of it like a fractal.
That’s not a comment on Zelensky one way or the other.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:48 am to BarcaBlaugranafan
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To say that the antichrist has come and gone is to dismiss most of Biblical prophecy.
Not even close. Its saying much of Revelation has already been fulfilled
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:50 am to BarcaBlaugranafan
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Plus the Book of Revelation was written during John's vision in 90AD
Stop posting a guess as a fact. You, nor any human currently alive know for sure when Revelation was written
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:53 am to Flats
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You’re using a western view of prophecy. Jewish prophecy is frequently repeating patterns, not just “this will happen in the future”. Think of it like a fractal.
Its possible. The prophecies of Jesus in the Old Testament dont fit this description
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:22 am to 62Tigerfan
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Zelensky is too stupid to be the antichrist. He's not even good actor.
More people are lead by dumber people.
Point being, the vast majority of people don't want a smart leader, they just want to feel good.
If the antichrist is in our lifetime, he's likely to be just smart enough to talk nicely.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:41 am to BarcaBlaugranafan
I’m not a dispensationalist, but I’ve seen far left and far right celebrate this guy.
One of the reasons I’ve always been against a one man antichrist is that it would be impossible to get the entire world to follow one man. Look at trump and Obama. Half the country hates the other.
Zelensky has at least piqued my interest.
One of the reasons I’ve always been against a one man antichrist is that it would be impossible to get the entire world to follow one man. Look at trump and Obama. Half the country hates the other.
Zelensky has at least piqued my interest.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:48 am to lechateau
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Its possible. The prophecies of Jesus in the Old Testament dont fit this description
Are you serious? You may have seem called “types” instead of prophecy patterns, but there are several.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 11:57 am to Flats
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You may have seem called “types” instead of prophecy patterns, but there are several.
I have zero idea what you are talking about. In Psalms, David writes:
Dogs surround me, a pack of villains encircles me; they pierce my hands and my feet.
This was a Jewish prophecy. Nothing "fractal" about it. It referred to a future occurrence that happened once. The Bible isnt "Jewish" because all scripture is God breathed. God chose the Jews to carry out his word.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:07 pm to lechateau
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I have zero idea what you are talking about.
Abraham sacrificing (almost) Isaac. Jonah in the whale. Moses was a deliverer, and innocents were slaughtered trying to erase him as a baby. Joshua (same name as Jesus) conquered the land, and specifically Jericho with an angel there who allowed himself to be worshipped. Those are just off the top of my head, and what I’m saying isn’t particularly controversial. Look it up.
I never claimed that all prophecy has patterns, but it frequently does. And for all we know that specific picture you referenced may have recurred multiple times with martyrs.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:16 pm to Flats
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Abraham sacrificing (almost) Isaac. Jonah in the whale. Moses was a deliverer, and innocents were slaughtered trying to erase him as a baby. Joshua (same name as Jesus) conquered the land, and specifically Jericho with an angel there who allowed himself to be worshipped. Those are just off the top of my head, and what I’m saying isn’t particularly controversial. Look it up.
These werent prophecies, they were things that happened that Jesus symbolically repeated. The end times prophecies werent things that happened, they were visions of the future.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:17 pm to SportTiger1
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how on earth was that statement anti-Semitic?
You’re responding to the sensitive little flower who came on this board and openly admitted that Trump had broken him.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 12:24 pm to lechateau
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they were visions of the future.
I understand that. I’m simply saying that Nero could very well fit the Antichrist prophecy and yet still not be the ultimate fulfilment of that prophecy. He could be a type or picture, just like there were types and pictures of the Messiah.
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