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re: Victor Davis Hanson: Trumps Counter Revolution End the Great Reset destruction of America

Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:44 pm to
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Most of the time folks are fighting and debating over things and topics about which they aren’t even on the same page as to the meanings of the most pertinent aspects of the whole debate to begin with


That's why I'm constantly asking people for operative definitions, especially with squishy NPC talking points

Notice, none of them wanted to engage in that. There is a reason for that.

Then the popular thing is to create a strawman saying something like "SFP says x doesn't exist" and missing the entire point.
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Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:50 pm to
you didn't tell him you were a lower case libertarian. it's rare you miss a chance to signal your virtues.

luckily i was here.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:51 pm to
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you didn't tell him you were a lower case libertarian. it's rare you miss a chance to signal your virtues.

luckily i was here.


no need, fam

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Posted on 9/26/26 at 3:39 pm t
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:00 pm to
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I'm still waiting on your operative definition.


I never said I had a definiton. Just that a globalist supports open borders

Orange does not unlike what retardgator said

You said 17k refugess was globalism. You also said Iran and Russia fight it yet they allow 100k + 500k + per year so by your logic they dont fight it

Its obvious you have some type of definition in your head so tell us what that is
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:03 pm to
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I never said I had a definiton.



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Just that a globalist supports open borders


You contradict yourself with your first 2 sentences.

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You said 17k refugess was globalism

Well you changed your definition. You previously used "closed borders" and 17k refugees refutes that.

Now you've pivoted and re-defined it as "supports open borders", while also claiming you have no definition.

Now I know why you lie so much. You're a mess when you try to engage without it.

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Its obvious you have some type of definition in your head so tell us what that is


It's an amalgomation of about 30 that have been posted here, but I'm not including you or Madking's use of immigration, admittedly. That's too much
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:06 pm to
The typical malleable definition of "globalism" involves agreements among nations, typically with an implication that this strips the countries of sovereignty. The two most common associations referenced are the EU and NATO.

Some more broad concepts involves international NGOs, even ones completely private or those that are think tanks (like WEF).

Again, it changes per the argument, but those are the 2 main veins of the malleable NPC concept.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:06 pm to
What was my definition then?

I cant believe im letting myself get into the SFP retard circle trap
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:07 pm to
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What was my definition then?


You gave a partial definition around "closed borders" and pivoted in your last post to being against open borders.

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I cant believe im letting myself get into the SFP retard circle trap

You're the one trying to argue a concept you then admit you can't define, but then give a partial definition to keep arguing.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 4:55 pm to
My definition then is that globalist want mass immigration

Like the last admin you voted for
Like all of Europe
Like Iran and Russia

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 5:04 pm to
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My definition then is that globalist want mass immigration

That's it?

No associations required? No agreements among countries?

Does the migration have to be legal or illegal?

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Like the last admin you voted for

Neither Kanye nor RFK Jr. won

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Like Iran and Russia

You can create the definition to include these 2, but you're the minority/outlier view.

I'll include your definition as SVD's "Globalism" next time I reference it and it won't be included in teh general reference, to avoid future confusion.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100821 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 5:06 pm to
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That's it?


Thats it

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Neither Kanye nor RFK Jr. won


Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
74581 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 5:08 pm to
He’s a clown
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11657 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 5:41 pm to
but can you id the play and author ?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483918 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 5:47 pm to
I haven't watched a play since college and didn't pay attention in introduction to theater over 20 years ago, so no.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11657 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 6:02 pm to
But a world history/government buff surely is aware of

"Sheep on a runway". by Art Buchwald. debuted Jan 1970


A satirical play set in a small Himalayan country about the actions of a political appointee Ambassador who smells red subversion around every corner. CIA , gurillas warfare, a radical daughter from radcliffe, reconstruction are all there.


Satire helps understand globalism 56 years ago. You did say you studied it from 1953 to current.

good read, not necessary to find a current performance
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/26/26 at 6:11 pm to
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But a world history/government buff surely is aware of

"Sheep on a runway". by Art Buchwald. debuted Jan 1970

Of my many areas of interest, modern plays are not included.

You'd have had a better shot referencing aeschylus.

If a topic isn't in my areas of interest I pay 0 attention and devote 0 resources towards retention. I will forget the play you referenced by the start of the LSU game.

Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5517 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 7:14 pm to
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War with Iran is supporting globalism


I thought Globalism was just an idea? You finally acknowledging its real now??
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483918 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 7:21 pm to
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I thought Globalism was just an idea?


Yes and that's where war with Iran fits into the idea/concept

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You finally acknowledging its real now??

I acknowledge it's a malleable NPC term

This thread is actually a GREAT example of that, with all the different definitions being used
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5517 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 7:34 pm to
You are a joke. It’s not just a think tank idea.

Globalists are the people who have started and controlled all chaos in the ME for years.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
483918 posts
Posted on 9/26/26 at 7:43 pm to
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You are a joke. It’s not just a think tank idea.


Correct. It's an online content creator/NPC idea.

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Globalists are the people who have started and controlled all chaos in the ME for years.

Like who?

Examples with Iran, specifically?
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