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re: Vance's solution to the rising cost of child care...

Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:58 am to
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60921 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 11:58 am to
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If they had to depend on each other again they would.


No. They just wouldn’t exist.

You are ASSUMING the average young person views family as the highest calling. They don’t now. And they don’t realize it until later in life.

At the end of the day, More men would retreat to incel life or use contraceptives and more women are being RAISED to not depend on men. And guess what? Paw paw and maw maw are now the same way. Family would not be worth the headache to even start.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 12:03 pm
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:18 pm to
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Prove me wrong


Prove yourself right, boomer. I didn't come into someone's post making claims with zero evidence to back it up except "I doubt"
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299521 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:25 pm to
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No. They just wouldn’t exist.

You are ASSUMING the average young person views family as the highest calling.


Wrong.

If they did, they would be having more children.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299521 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Prove yourself right, boomer. I didn't come into someone's post making claims with zero evidence to back it up except "I doubt"


How many kids do you have?
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:28 pm to
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Well, I would do that, and we're sitting down, and I was, somebody, we had Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka was so, uh, impactful on that issue. It's a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I'm talking about, that, because, look, child care is child care is. Couldn't, you know, there's something, you have to have it – in this country you have to have it.

But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that I'm talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they're not used to — but they'll get used to it very quickly – and it's not gonna stop them from doing business with us, but they'll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Uh, those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we're talking about, including child care, that it's going to take care.

We're gonna have - I, I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with, uh, the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country, because I have to stay with child care. I want to stay with child care, but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I'm talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just, uh, that I just told you about.

We're gonna be taking in trillions of dollars, and as much as child care, uh, is talked about as being expensive, it's, relatively speaking, not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we'll be taking in. We're going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people, and then we'll worry about the rest of the world. Let's help other people, but we're going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. It's about Make America Great Again, we have to do it because right now we're a failing nation, so we'll take care of it. Thank you. Very good question. Thank you.


I asked Chat GPT to summarize these ramblings:

quote:

Here's a summary of the incoherent ramble:

After being asked about specific legislation to help with child care costs, the speaker pivoted to a vague discussion about taxing foreign nations at high levels, claiming that these taxes would bring in so much revenue that they'd easily cover child care costs, which he views as relatively small. He also touched on eliminating deficits by reducing waste and fraud, promising massive economic growth that would make the country "afford to take care of its people." He reiterated his "America First" stance, claiming the country needs to focus on itself before worrying about the rest of the world.

In essence, there were no specific solutions or policies for child care costs, just broad, disconnected talking points about taxing other countries and reducing deficits.


Is it just me or did he say that we were going to tax foreign countries and then we could use that money for child care? Did he advocate for the government paying for it? Or did he just ramble because he didn't have an answer? Can someone help me out?
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31402 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:29 pm to
What is wrong with what he said? Why do people believe they have to run to the Government for everything they can't afford.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299521 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 2:39 pm to
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What is wrong with what he said?


He didnt mention government spending as the solution. That pisses the Progs off.
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
1820 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 3:10 pm to
The real answer is if inflation wasn’t kicking everything’s arse couples could afford for mom to stay home and nurture their child as was intended. For single parents the bang for their buck would be greater and with financial discipline they could more easily budget childcare.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20073 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 3:25 pm to
Take the funding for Ukraine and give it to OUR kids
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2984 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 4:07 pm to
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It's laughable just how out of touch this guy is with reality


Good child care has always been expensive.

How do you propose a VP should lower the cost of child care? They’re fairly highly regulated, almost always small businesses.

In a fair number of cases family may possibly be able to help out.

This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 4:09 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138898 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 4:15 pm to
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Prove me wrong
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Prove yourself right, boomer.


quote:

Between 1990 and 2024: Day care and preschool experienced an average inflation rate of 3.86% per year. This rate of change indicates significant inflation. In other words, day care and preschool costing $20 in the year 1990 would cost $72.47 in 2024 for an equivalent purchase.
LINK
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The median household income in the United States in 1990 was $29,940.

The median household income in the United States in 2022 was $74,580.
LINK


So daycare (w/o supplement) is slightly more expensive today.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38357 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 4:19 pm to
Thank you NC.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138898 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Is it just me or did he say that we were going to tax foreign countries and then we could use that money for child care? Did he advocate for the government paying for it?
It is just you. You are really making ChatGPT look stupid though. So congrats there.

The fellow you nonsensically abhor simply said expense for childcare supplementation was basically inconsequential compared with its cost, ROI and with the revenues he'd raise with tariffs.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60921 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 5:14 pm to
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Wrong.

If they did, they would be having more children.


So, you are agreeing with me?
Posted by rwestmore7
Member since Nov 2007
1004 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 5:29 pm to
quote:

slightly


Huh???

$72 a week

The cheapest daycare that I found in my area was $145 a week and that was a year ago.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38357 posts
Posted on 9/7/24 at 7:57 am to
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Huh???

$72 a week

The cheapest daycare that I found in my area was $145 a week and that was a year ago.
You are not very bright are you? Did you even bother to go to the link?
Posted by TigerBaitOohHaHa
Member since Jan 2023
2068 posts
Posted on 9/13/24 at 11:15 pm to
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And why do you think that is? It couldn’t be because the policies in those cities foster better economic development and do a better job providing their population with the social welfare and services they need?


That's where all the section 8 Housing and their parole officer are?

After these past 4 years you have to be a full on 'Tard (TM) to try to sell our decaying, impoverished and crime ridden cities as centers with "better economic development".
Posted by FireawayLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2023
1913 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 3:24 am to
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It's laughable just how out of touch this guy is with reality


Melt snowflake melt. Since when does having your family help raise a child out of touch. I guess he invented the saying “it takes a village”. He’s basic answer, because you are obviously WAY to slow to get it is this. Stop throwing money at every problem and let’s fix it with sensible solutions.

PS also who caused the inflation in everything????? You liberals make this shite too easy. Dear god how dumb yall are.
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
6071 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 6:53 am to
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It's laughable just how out of touch this guy is with reality




Tell us, what would be your plan dipshit?
This post was edited on 9/14/24 at 6:54 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
20088 posts
Posted on 9/14/24 at 7:04 am to
When I don’t drive by the daycare and don’t see a line of Tahoes and Sequoias then we can talk about it.
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