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re: Valero paid a $1.1 billion breakup fee to leave California

Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:12 am to
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23911 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:12 am to
Imagine the real estate cost of a seaside Valero station.

Then add the permitting costs and costs to meet regulations to put underground fuel tanks there.

For the Pacific Palisades neighborhood that burned, California demanded double containment around each septic system, and every house required its own septic.
This post was edited on 2/10/26 at 9:20 am
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2911 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:35 am to
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Im worried they wouldn't be doing this if they didnt think a recession was imminent


yes! record markets at new highs is always the sign of a looming recession!

if it cost a nickle to schit you'd have to throw up kid.
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
25267 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 9:51 am to
They paid to leave, that is telling.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
29853 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:09 am to
Europe also killed their future. Look at Germany

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Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17467 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:22 am to
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Im worried they wouldn't be doing this if they didnt think a recession was imminent


A company would basically spend 1.1 billion to exit a state, expending a ton of capital in doing so, when they forcasted a recession? Yea. No.

They are giving an example of "many times you gotta spend some money to make money". They are dropping asinine costly regulation and punishing taxes for more friendly locales.

The people of CA wanted the resulting even higher fuel prices and less tax revenue they will have to make up. They should be smiling big.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
4019 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:24 am to
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Im worried


Well it is a day ending in day.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17135 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:33 am to
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All because Gavin Newsom stood motionless as this stupidly written bill, from a fringe union and a handful of socialist academics with an axe to grind


These are the same people who complain about rent being raised when a tax or fee is assessed on a landlord.

"But wait, that was supposed to be paid by the rich guy, not passed along to the consumer".

Dumbasses. I hope every single gas company pulls out and California roads are just fully electric. That would be the utopia they have been working towards.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
6071 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:39 am to
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Im worried they wouldn't be doing this if they didnt think a recession was imminent


You serious? Clown
Posted by bayoumuscle21
St. George
Member since Jan 2012
5048 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 10:53 am to
And 50% (or close to) will vote for Newscum in 28.

Democrats are very stupid.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15733 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 2:57 pm to
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Europe also killed their future.


A French refinery is expanding.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15733 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 2:59 pm to
BASF has been moving ops to the US for a decade now little by little
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15733 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 3:01 pm to
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Is that an image of an actual service station built into the cliff side California coast? That property view is probably worth half that payment.


The owner will have a new sign or stay with Valero. Just because a gas station has a certain sign doesn't mean that is who they buy fuel from. It does mean the fuel there has the Valero additives in it.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29212 posts
Posted on 2/10/26 at 3:09 pm to
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record markets at new highs is always the sign of a looming recession!


I have no idea if a recession is coming, but the DOW did reach an all-time high in 1929 before we crashed into the Great Depression, and in 2007 before the ‘08 crash.
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