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re: Utah Republican Senator Mike Lee Introduces Bill to Outlaw All Porn Nationwide
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:02 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:02 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Sure, assuming it's your personal flavor of "highest and best." When it isn't, you whine about it.
It’s not “my” personal flavor. It’s the flavor of Judeo-Christian ethics which stretches across time. You can pretend we sprang from a moral swamp ex nihilo. I will engage in no such flight of fancy.
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Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:04 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
I don't think that's what you're after. I think the goal is to debate my position - which you don't like - without having to reveal your ideology in any depth. I don't know why that is.
What I meant is that I don't think anything genuinely resembling "small government conservatism" has been put into practice. What that promised movement became has lost ground on every major issue, save perhaps the Second Amendment.
What I meant is that I don't think anything genuinely resembling "small government conservatism" has been put into practice. What that promised movement became has lost ground on every major issue, save perhaps the Second Amendment.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:04 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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This... "I'd settle for "small government conservative" to be more than a talking point." ...is what I said. That doesn't mean I box myself into a singular idea.
No one is accusing you of boxing yourself in with ideas. Quite the contrary.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:05 pm to Pettifogger
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I don't think that's what you're after. I think the goal is to debate my position - which you don't like - without having to reveal your ideology in any depth. I don't know why that is.
It’s much easier to attack positions than defend them.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:06 pm to the808bass
And for the record I don't really care about tying him to a position so I can bludgeon him with it. But it's pretty counterproductive to have any discussion while the ground is constantly shifting.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:06 pm to the808bass
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It’s not “my” personal flavor.
Yes it is. Others enjoying the same flavor doesn't change that.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:08 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
You’re just destroying language to pretend to make a point.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:09 pm to Pettifogger
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I think the goal is to debate my position - which you don't like - without having to reveal your ideology in any depth.
Correct, I'm not a fan of authoritarianism just because I happen to agree with it in a particular instance.
That doesn't necessitate an in-depth examination of my entire ideology.
No one who advocates for what you proposed is a "small government conservative." If that's fine with you, cool. We can move on.
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What I meant is that I don't think anything genuinely resembling "small government conservatism" has been put into practice.
Of course not, but it's still something many profess, while simultaneously longing for the government to step in on their behalf.
This post was edited on 12/16/22 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:11 pm to the808bass
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You’re just destroying language to pretend to make a point.
I already made my point.
Now I'm simply destroying attempts to extrapolate from that.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:12 pm to the_truman_shitshow
I sure hope his closet is clean because they commin
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:19 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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No one who advocates for what you proposed is a "small government conservative." If that's fine with you, cool. We can move on.
I'm not a small government conservative in any meaningful way.
I favor small government as a stopgap/alternative.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:21 pm to Pettifogger
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I'm not a small government conservative in any meaningful way.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:23 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
But, as to 808's point, I do consider myself very conservative.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:27 pm to Pettifogger
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But, as to 808's point, I do consider myself very conservative.
A lot of folks do, even if that isn't absolute.
To be sure, that isn't realistic or expected. Some are able to be self-aware enough that they allow some nuance. Some are not, and that's where we get some of these dope arse purity tests.
Posted on 12/16/22 at 3:30 pm to the_truman_shitshow
May God bless Mike Lee…..
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