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re: U.S. Inflation Report Shows Effects of Trump’s Tariffs

Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by AaronDeTiger
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2014
2171 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:01 pm to
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VABuckeye

This dude has been bleeding all over the money board lately.
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1921 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:07 pm to
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This was expected. The rate increase was small and resulted in a big boost to the stock market.


Thats not how rate increases work. Quite the opposite really. The stock market’s positive performance was not tied to rates increasing. In the typical business cycle stock market returns surge during periods of lower rates because small and mid cap companies can borrow money cheaper thus increasing their earnings. Higher rates dont affect large and mega cap companies as much because they can just issue their own bonds to raise business capital. Thats why we still have good returns on large cap stocks. It is a bit unsettling. Large caps are on a bit of an unprecedented run. Normally if you take a 10 year segment of the market, small caps will produce the largest returns 2 or 3 of those 10 years. We have had 0 of those years in the last ten years. Mid cap returns have started to come back in the last year but small caps are still struggling. Im a financial advisor and I will say the death of IPOs in the small cap market is very concerning for the broad market. We are being completely propped up by the latge and mega cap market.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38362 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:07 pm to
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Annualized its 2.6%.

Not great for sure but not flat like you claimed.
That is flat.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135434 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:51 pm to
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That is flat.
Yep. The 30 Dow stocks have underperformed other indices (as I'd bet you know). S&P is on track for 12%. NASDAQ 18%. If you played April well, all those ROIs are much better.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135434 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:52 pm to
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This dude has been bleeding all over the money board lately.
Never like to see that.
Posted by shrevetigertom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
4452 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:56 pm to
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This dude has been bleeding all over the money board lately.
Why is it that anyone on here with a Buckeye connection is a complete fricking moron?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135434 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 4:59 pm to
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Why is it that anyone on here with a Buckeye connection is a complete fricking moron?
Buckeyes are poisonous nuts
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53640 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:04 pm to
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You forgot the price of beef. You know, that seldom used groceries word.


Trump's tariffs jacked up domestic beef prices? On any given year 10-20% of beef consumed in the US is imported. I doubt any tariffs on imported beef has caused the 30-40% rise in beef prices since the Covid-19 Hysteria.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:09 pm to
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21207 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:12 pm to
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Tariffs never make anything cheaper


Because YOU say so???? Lol.
Are really a SFP alter???
Posted by MajorityWhip
Member since Oct 2020
1167 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:13 pm to
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Wait until when (if) China tariffs actually become a reality.

That can has been kicked down the road so often that it now needs replaced.


Tariffs have been on China since Trump 1.0. The delay was to the INCREASE. Get a clue, retard.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10275 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:20 pm to
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Actually, I think Trump will pull the plug before then. That's one of the few good things about populism. When your groundless decisions based on zero principle produce awful results, you can—without violating any core principles, because you didn't have any in the first place—just reverse gears, claim the idea was great but scapegoat someone else for the failure, and keep right on trucking.)


You just admitted that you wouldn't reverse course on a bad decision if it violated your core principles. That's stupid. You would put your economic principles above the good of the country even after the data proves it was a bad decision.

And you want to fault Trump for following the data while you would continue on a failed path because "muh principles." And we're talking about economic principles, not morality, so don't conflate the two.

How do people not see how retarded that point of view is?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295343 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:25 pm to
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And you want to fault Trump for following the data


Or he could have just listened to more enlightened people and not made a fool of himself with his tariff rollout and subsequent flip-flopping.

He was told, as most of you...that these tariffs were going to drag the economy, not help it.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93146 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:30 pm to
How are you always so dumb

Hes gotten tariffs from 4% average to 15% across the board

The economy isnt dragging

Its no wonder you ran away from life and live in a tent with Murkowski
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295343 posts
Posted on 8/12/25 at 5:31 pm to
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The economy isnt dragging


Yet youre here daily crying because Powell hasnt cut rates yet.

Why the frick would you need to do that if the economy is humming?
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