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US citizens more hawkish on the Ukraine situation the least likely to locate it

Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:43 pm
on a map.

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A recent poll concerning the ongoing trouble in Ukraine found that only roughly one in six Americans know where the country is geographically located— many believe it is located somewhere in Europe or Asia and some misplaced the nation by 1,800 miles. What’s more disturbing than the respondents’ lacking geography skills, however, is that those who most inaccurately identified Ukraine were also the most likely to support U.S. military intervention in the nation.


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Who Could Locate Ukraine?:

27 percent of 18-24 year olds
14 percent of 65+ year-olds
20 percent of men
13 percent of women
16.1 percent of people from military households
16 percent of people from non-military households
29 percent of independents
14 percent of Democrats
15 percent of Republicans
21 percent of college graduates
13 percent of people without a college degree
The researchers discovered that 45 percent of Americans supported diplomatic pressure such as a U.S. boycott of the G8 Summit in response to the Ukrainian crises, and just 13 percent supported military intervention.
Among the 13 percent with hawkish responses, however, the researchers recognized an unsettling trend.
They relayed: “Even controlling for a series of demographic characteristics and participants’ general foreign policy attitudes, we found that the less accurate our participants were, the more they wanted the U.S. to use force,
Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:48 pm to
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Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:48 pm to
I guess it's not surprising to learn that the more ignorant people are, the more jingoistic they are.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:49 pm to
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I saw this too. I don't doubt that people are stupid, but not THAT stupid.


Doesn't surprise me a bit. People are geographically challenged (to put it nicely) to begin with, and those who know the least are likely to be the most hawkish.
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:50 pm to
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I bet if you said "I'll give you $10 if you guess correctly" then all of the ones in the US and Alaska would disappear. There are a ton of responses in the Black Sea since they allowed you to select a body of water and didn't color it differently.

Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:51 pm to
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:54 pm to
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The survey, conducted by a team consisting of Dartmouth, Harvard and Princeton political scientists, asked 2,066 Americans to locate Ukraine on a map. Respondents were also asked to provide opinions on what action the U.S. should take in Ukraine along with identifying demographic information.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:54 pm to
In real life, 100% of people I've personally heard use a form of "jingoistic" are borderline impaired. In the broader world, I bet 3/4 of usage of the term comes from film critics.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 1:54 pm to
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Doesn't surprise me a bit. People are geographically challenged (to put it nicely) to begin with, and those who know the least are likely to be the most hawkish.


I think it comes down to the macho aspect. At lower income and education levels, respect is denoted based on physical power. And they project this in geopolitics. Luckily they don't run stuff (anymore at least).

btw, I have been to the ukraine and I would have a hard time locating it on the map. Its in a sea of countries that have low populations and aren't really developed. Plus they have strange names. Its not that surprising that most people cannot locate it.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 2:07 pm to
Like Alan Jackson sang, I don;t know the difference between Iraq and Iran. Guess the same with Ukraine.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 2:10 pm to
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In real life, 100% of people I've personally heard use a form of "jingoistic" are borderline impaired. In the broader world, I bet 3/4 of usage of the term comes from film critics.


Good thing I have never used the term. Whew.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 2:12 pm to
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Even controlling for a series of demographic characteristics and participants’ general foreign policy attitudes, we found that the less accurate our participants were, the more they wanted the U.S. to use force


How less accurate? That's a very vague conclusion.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 2:12 pm to
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btw, I have been to the ukraine


I've been to Kiev, used to have a friend there. It was about 4 years after Chernobyl.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 2:13 pm to
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In real life, 100% of people I've personally heard use a form of "jingoistic" are borderline impaired.


You've got one poster in this thread alone who bears out that contention.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 2:16 pm to
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I've been to Kiev, used to have a friend there. It was about 4 years after Chernobyl.


So how is that blowhole in the back of your neck? And that third eye, the one in the middle of your forehead...did you ever gain sight in it?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 2:18 pm to
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So how is that blowhole in the back of your neck? And that third eye, the one in the middle of your forehead...did you ever gain sight in it?


That would explain the strange looks on the street....
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 2:20 pm to
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 2:21 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 2:33 pm to
What about the 25-60 year old demographic?
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 2:35 pm to
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You've got one poster in this thread alone who bears out that contention.

Actually, I've never met Pettifogger nor the folks he's encountered, so I won't critque his anecdote. Are you one of the geographically-challenged warmongers referred to in the OP who was stung by my statement?
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 2:45 pm to
17 in the US, about 60 in Canada and about 60 in Greenland. Something tells me a lot of people were yanking a lot of chains in this one, including the 3 young Ivy league authors.

"SSI has all the modes you need: Live interviewing over a landline or mobile phone, or self-completion via mobile phone, tablet or PC. SSI isn’t locked into one methodology. We listen to your research objectives then suggest the mode that fits your goals."

Looking at the credentials of the three guys behind the survey, I'm guessing the "research objectives" were pretty clearly defined.
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