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re: US child deaths on the rise, partly blamed on ‘immune overreaction’

Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:02 am to
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11227 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:02 am to
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Author clearly doesn’t understand sepsis


I thought the same thing, but I looked it up and they're all blaming the immune system instead of infection.

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Sepsis is a serious condition in which the body responds improperly to an infection. The infection-fighting processes turn on the body, causing the organs to work poorly.

Any infection could lead to sepsis. Go to a health care provider if you have symptoms of sepsis or an infection or wound that isn't getting better.

Posted by Paddyshack
Land of the Free
Member since Sep 2015
8358 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:05 am to
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do you not know what an example is?

Yes
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Dumb bitch; retard

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Example

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DisplacedBuckeye
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25156 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:09 am to
She literally cites the clinical definition. How is that not understanding it?


Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72109 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:11 am to
Thought not. Don't worry about the definition. Let's just give you some simple instructions.

What you're looking for is a quote from one of those two that supports your idiotic assertion of "same language."

If that doesn't work, bring your crayons, because we're going to have to get really simple to make sure you get this.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72109 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:16 am to
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I asked you a question, and your response was "read the article".


Right...you don't think you should read the article? If you can't be bothered to do that, why would I waste time on your inane questions?

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"Data" is just a word. Commonly referred to as a collection of values that convey information. It's not a source.


Data isn't a source?

Holy. fricking. shite.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25156 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:20 am to
DisplacedBuckeye - sorry for your low IQ. But I did read the article. That's why I asked YOU to point out specific points within so maybe we can unpack what it is you think is wrong with it.


You've offered nothing. As I suspected.

And that you really truly believe that "data" is in and of itself a 'source' only furthers my point.

Which 'data'?? Be specific.
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 8:21 am
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
451 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:21 am to
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social systems where people try to come up with reasons to believe things in exchange for money or social approval.

Might this apply to "safe and effective"?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9904 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:26 am to
Yes, I think so. People search for information that rationalizes the beliefs they want to continue to hold. and there are information providers available to serve those needs.

Search behavior in this environment leads to a lot of belief polarization. If you get in an argument, what do you do? Go to google and search for what you believe and voila, in the information rich world, and you will find evidence for what you wish to continue to believe.

But are you justified in that belief?

*BTW, I don't think this the only dynamic behind our beliefs.
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 8:36 am
Posted by Bamadog75
Alabama
Member since Mar 2017
1273 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:28 am to
Who cares about the source when they're just giving data from the CDC . You make yourself look stupid fighting over it. We all know people who got vaccinated are scared to death not knowing the true side effects. You can put your fingers in you ear like a little kid saying nah nah nah . But we all know your scared shitless.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72109 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:29 am to
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I did read the article.


OK, good job.

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And that you really truly believe that "data" is in and of itself a 'source' only furthers my point.


If you're wondering why I'm not engaging in any serious discussion, this is why.

I won't give any credibility to someone who says "data isn't a source." I think you realize how ignorant that assertion is, which is why you're trying to pivot to "in and of itself."
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4015 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:29 am to
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My "beef" is with garbage sources.


I personally don't care much for arguments by authority.

Those stats were either correct or they weren't, regardless of the source.

I'm as big a ball-buster as there is on this board about believing wild populist conspiracy theories, but there's nothing far-fetched about a new vaccine introduced into the market without an extensive timeline of testing producing some unintended negative consequences that were not apparent until after the fact. Especially on the scale that was reported in that OP.

Those kinds of numbers would be absolutely normal—if not expected—in the medical world.

If we're talking about Biden importing illegals to enslave Americans or the government controlling the weather, count me in for piling on that kind of stupidity.

This isn't that.

An argument by authority is a classic logical fallacy.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25156 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:30 am to
Data is a word. It's laughable to think you can just toss out 'data!' and claim you have any substantive argument.



WHAT frickING DATA??? You god damn moron.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72109 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:31 am to
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Who cares about the source...


This is a pretty fricking stupid thing to say.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72109 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:32 am to
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Data is a word. It's laughable to think you can just toss out 'data!' and claim you have any substantive argument.



WHAT frickING DATA??? You god damn moron.


Admit that you're a fricking dumbass for saying data isn't a source. That's the only way this goes anywhere. If you can't do that, you can't have a discussion.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72109 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:33 am to
It'll be fun to watch others latch onto you, Hank. They might not know, but I do.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25156 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:33 am to


You don't want a discussion. I get it. You've got absolutely nothing of substance and you're too much of a coward to admit when you've been called out. So you clam up and run away.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72109 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:34 am to
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You don't want a discussion. I get it. You've got absolutely nothing of substance and you're too much of a coward to admit when you've been called out. So you clam up and run away.


Yeah, I thought you'd decline. You're not here for discussion, either. You're here to run your mouth, so don't get indignant about it, sport.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140616 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:36 am to
I’m not convinced just yet that this one is Hank.

Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9904 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:39 am to
Yeah, I don't think it's him either. Example from post below: "You're stupider (in general) than I thought you were if you really think that." A little too blunt an insult for Hank.

What makes this story effective anti-vax prop is it is an immune-system related condition and so you associate where your feels want to take you.
This post was edited on 3/23/24 at 8:43 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
4015 posts
Posted on 3/23/24 at 8:40 am to
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It'll be fun to watch others latch onto you, Hank. They might not know, but I do.


Appeal to ridicule.

Another classic logical fallacy.

You want to try the true Scotsman next?

And if you think you're going to convince anybody here that I am Hank, good luck.

You're stupider (in general) than I thought you were if you really think that.
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