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re: US as is won’t be around in 100 years.

Posted on 5/31/20 at 10:50 am to
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6489 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 10:50 am to
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The Mayan civilization, for instance, faded from prominence after the 16th century Spanish invasion brought warfare, disease and a foreign culture intent on spreading its own systems of faith and governance. The Mayan population was severely diminished, and what was left changed under the rule of its conquerors. This pattern exists throughout recorded history, dating back even to the earliest known civilization of Sumer, in Mesopotamia, which collapsed under the strain of recurring invasions in the second millennium B.C.

It's impossible to put a finger on a single reason that the Roman Empire fell, but discussion often leads scholars to discussions of outer attrition by barbarians tribes and inner decay. Meanwhile, Rome's rulers debased the currency through oppressive taxation and inflation.

The ancient Anasazi, or Pueblo, people of North America pose yet another interesting model for civilization collapse. They practiced agriculture and astronomy. They built elaborate cliff dwellings yet eventually abandoned them. Historians point to numerous factors in their decline, including warfare and cooler temperatures in A.D. 900 that hampered farming. Still other studies attribute their downfall to a divisive religious crisis that caused many of the Puebloans to migrate south to follow a new evangelical faith.


The US is destined to fail. We have let too many foreigners with different ideals into the country. We have politicians that loot the country and push for higher taxes. We have a Fed that pushes for steady inflation. We have too many people that are atheists and non-Christians. We have simply let too many people that do not agree with the founding principles and morals of this country in.

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Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17683 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 10:53 am to
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Like minded people need to think about carving out a section of land to organize a new nation.

People have the right of self determination


Our nation was founded on this fundamental principle. Yet you will be accused of supporting chattel slavery or some such nonsense for saying so.

“Whether we remain in one confederacy, or form into Atlantic and Mississippi confederacies, [I] believe not very important to the happiness of either part. Those of the western confederacy will be as much our children & descendants as those of the eastern.... I now foresee a separation at some future day, yet should feel the duty & the desire to promote the western interests as zealously as the eastern, doing all the good for both portions of our future family....” Thomas Jefferson: letter to Joseph Priestly, January 29, 1804.

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Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
17683 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:02 am to
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If its that bad you should just leave.


I’m not leaving. I’m going to continue to argue for, fight and promote the principles of limited government.

With that said, I don’t seek to impose my values or preferences on anyone — especially at the point of a gun. Yet that should be a two-way street.
This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 11:05 am
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
3348 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:16 am to
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“Whether we remain in one confederacy, or form into Atlantic and Mississippi confederacies, [I] believe not very important to the happiness of either part. Those of the western confederacy will be as much our children & descendants as those of the eastern.... I now foresee a separation at some future day, yet should feel the duty & the desire to promote the western interests as zealously as the eastern, doing all the good for both portions of our future family....” Thomas Jefferson: letter to Joseph Priestly, January 29, 1804.


This is way too highbrow for 80% of the population. They’ll just see confederacy and scream racism and white privilege.
Posted by claremontrich
Member since Nov 2016
2001 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 11:43 am to
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s this the thread where we assume all minorites will vote in lock step with Democrats as their freedoms and wealth get extracted from them? LOL




That is exactly what will happen. Name an election that it did not happen?

Why do think it will be different this time?


The POTUS' party got 7% of the AA vote in the 2018 midterms. That is higher than I would have expected.

Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 5:17 pm to
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America is the impressive class project that was created with stolen information and other people's supplies.


A stark contrast between this "observation," obviously the result of successful Leftist conditioning in what could have been any of a number of our critical institutions.

Compared to that of an Alsatian-American of very humble beginnings, who understood and appreciated America for what it had made available to him to reach out and grasp on his own just through its free public libraries:

"America is the only original thing to happen in the world in the last thousand years."

~ Eric Hoffer

Author of The True Believer, and The Passionate State of Mind

Also, he didn't suffer Leftists.

This post was edited on 5/31/20 at 5:33 pm
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48328 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 5:49 pm to
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The United States will cease being when someone manages to cut off the electric grid; my bold prediction.


Given the fact that China was able to vector a virus here and Soros and other foreigners were able to organize terrorist groups here without the USA being able to prevent either, I am beginning to increasingly worry about your scenario.

How tough would it be to deliver ANOTHER kick to the USA's balls, given the fact that the first two were delivered without even NEARLY being prevented?
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
8635 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 6:01 pm to
We need to start the negotiations now to get give the Dems some area and build some walls to keep them out.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71035 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 6:08 pm to
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That is exactly what will happen. Name an election that it did not happen?

Why do think it will be different this time?


The POTUS' party got 7% of the AA vote in the 2018 midterms. That is higher than I would have expected.



A one party state with honest elections is unsustainable. When there are too many blue states to stop the Democrats, we'll end up with a fascist Supreme Court that guts the Bill of Rights, and a Congress that robs the people blind for the benefit of their donors (think Obamacare, not Medicare for All).

Minorities will suffer the most while social policy will be in support of white soyboys and suburban Karens.

The party will eventually split just like it did after the end of the Federalists.

Big problem is when the schism happens it might be too late to save the Constitution.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20372 posts
Posted on 5/31/20 at 6:12 pm to
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Really though, hold off on that final assessment until 2025 at the latest. Unless Trump finagles himself into a President For Life gig.

I do think that 2025 at latest the pendulum will swing back towards the "middle"
I mean, compared to other Republicans, you do realize Trump is more Middle than Right?

He's not behind any sort of a social agenda, one way or the other. He's focused on redoing trade deals that are more favorable to America, so the economy takes off.
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