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re: U.S. and EU Officials Gently Discussing Need for Ukraine to Enter Peace Negotiations

Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:56 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:56 am to
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We could have done this several trillion of our dollars ago since the writing has been on the wall since the beginning of this conflict.


The goal was war, not peace.

The US government has done Ukraine no favors, which the Zelensky bros cannot understand.
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
7695 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:59 am to
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Russia is a natural ally and we should recognize this as a war of the NWO against the people of the west.


Agree, and it's our fault that we're not. The arms industry has to have a bogeyman and Russia fits the bill. Our real enemy, China has too large of a GDP; our economies are too entwined.
Russia has a small GDP, so it doesn't hurt economically to have them as a bogeyman.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:00 am to
Russia is not a natural ally.

They are however a tremendous possible trade partner.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:00 am to
The longer they wait, the more territory they’ll lose. Making peace is the practical choice. The peace deal they get today, will be worse than the one they were offered in April of 22.
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4462 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:03 am to
Translation:

1. We have bigger wars to fight now, Ukraine is small potatoes when Daddy Israel Is now engaged. We must cyphon Trillions thru our Zionist Overlords.

2. We already armed the MOOSLUMS enough thru Ukraine BS & Afghanistan pullout, now we can have our double sided Holy War, the mother of all wars is now ready to bankrupt the USA.

Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8479 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:04 am to
quote:

So a country invaded Ukraine and the onus is on Ukraine to make peace with its invaders?


You should read book, This happens all the time throughout history u disconnected idiot, lol.
Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
12959 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:20 am to
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My plan? I don’t have a plan. My suggestion is for Russia to go back home and move on from this


Holy moly you’re serious?
This post was edited on 11/4/23 at 8:21 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:25 am to
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My plan? I don’t have a plan. My suggestion is for Russia to go back home and move on from this


This is why many people believe women shouldnt vote.

Not ban them, just convince them not to vote. This is the most ridiculous thing Ive read on this site.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67404 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:53 am to
What’s so funny? Russia did, in fact,invade a sovereign nation. There is no rationale that supports Putin’s desire to continue the occupation.

Is Poland or Lithuania fair game?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 8:59 am to
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What’s so funny? Russia did, in fact,invade a sovereign nation. There is no rationale that supports Putin’s desire to continue the occupation.


To think they are just going to stop and go home is the epitome of childish thinking.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112426 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:01 am to


Guess they're scared Russia is about to topple their puppet
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24089 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:23 am to
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There is no rationale that supports Putin’s desire to continue the occupation.


We can disagree with it and not like it, but a rationale is there none the less
Posted by Kingshakabooboo
Member since Nov 2012
1451 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:24 am to
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So a country invaded Ukraine and the onus is on Ukraine to make peace with its invaders?


Yes..considering it was their actions that prompted the Russian invasion.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 9:28 am to
quote:

My plan? I don’t have a plan. My suggestion is for Russia to go back home and move on from this


Holy moly you’re serious?


Never choose a woman to lead you in war, this is the kind of thinking you get.
Posted by blueridgeTiger
Granbury, TX
Member since Jun 2004
22023 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:20 am to
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I don’t believe they are hoping to be ruled by a communist dictator


The 1960s say hello.
This post was edited on 11/4/23 at 10:27 am
Posted by iHEARTcorndogs
Island of Misfit Corndogs
Member since Oct 2023
1034 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:38 am to
It’s not a stalemate in the war of attrition. Ukraine is getting killed on that front, which is one of the biggest reasons they know it can’t be won
Posted by Vito Andolini
Member since Sep 2009
1879 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:48 am to
This US invaded the CSA and forcibly reincorporated it into the US, I fail to see how that was right, but what Russia is doing is wrong.
Posted by thermal9221
Youngsville
Member since Feb 2005
14647 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 10:56 am to
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What’s so funny? Russia did, in fact,invade a sovereign nation. There is no rationale that supports Putin’s desire to continue the occupation. Is Poland or Lithuania fair game?


Dude
You really think Russia wanted to do all this?
They’re the mean guys?
Learn some geopolitics and then revisit this take.
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 11:02 am to
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So a country invaded Ukraine and the onus is on Ukraine to make peace with its invaders?

This comment proves that public school education is a total failure.

Not understanding the simple historical concept of what the losing nation needs to do to try to survive to see another day, is really sad.

Ukrainians only have Z to blame for being paid off to not take the alleged deal back in the spring of '22. They'll be lucky if RU doesn't make them completely landlocked after this new deal.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295687 posts
Posted on 11/4/23 at 11:08 am to
quote:

So a country invaded Ukraine and the onus is on Ukraine to make peace with its invaders?

This comment proves that public school education is a total failure.


She seems to misunderstand 90% of the stuff posted on this board.
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