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re: U.S. and EU Officials Gently Discussing Need for Ukraine to Enter Peace Negotiations
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:00 am to ibldprplgld
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:00 am to ibldprplgld
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watch Biden shift gears and tell Americans it is now our moral imperative to send billions in aid to rebuild Ukraine.
This is a certainty
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Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:04 am to ibldprplgld
quote:100%! That is the plan, along with making the funding as unaccountable, untrackable, and launderable as possible.
watch Biden shift gears and tell Americans it is now our moral imperative to send billions in aid to rebuild Ukraine.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:05 am to GumboPot
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EU Officials Gently Discussing Need for Ukraine to Enter Peace Negotiations
how damn ironic..
"frick the EU." Neocon Nuland.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:09 am to NC_Tigah
quote:that’s essentially what created him. I really don’t understand how the consensus here seems to be supportive of Putin when he spent most of his life as a literal communist and the board hates communism.
he was never going to show disloyalty to USSR communism
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:14 am to burke985
I thought Russia was winning and that's why they need arms from Iran and NK and forcing minorities vs "white russians" in to their army?
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:20 am to TigersnJeeps
How inept is the Biden Administration??? Can’t be understood as it’s just the worst Administration ever… They refused to negotiate when it was a choice, early on, and it was documented as them who stopped it… Niw they’ve dumped billions into the war, used up our oil reserves and munitions, and we are back to the beginning…. I guess it was to enrich themselves at our expense….Brilliant if you are a crook…
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:22 am to 4cubbies
quote:In the same way it was in Germany (West Germany) and Japan post-WWII?
How can self-determination be on the table for an invaded country?
More to the point, South Ossetia and Abkhazia enjoy infinitely more self-determinative freedom with Russian peacekeepers there, than they would if resubjected to Georgian control.
Ukraine's Eastern Oblasts could have functioned independently with a combination of UN and Russian overseers there until stability was assured.
What you seem to be overlooking is the role Ukraine played in alienating the peoples of its eastern reaches.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:26 am to 4cubbies
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I really don’t understand how the consensus here seems to be supportive of Putin
Its not.
You folks just cannot see anything between extremes.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:28 am to 4cubbies
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My suggestion is for Russia to go back home and move on from this.
Problems solved!
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:30 am to 4cubbies
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How can self-determination be on the table for an invaded country?
We're controlling Ukraine.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:31 am to 4cubbies
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but this war has been extended to facilitate quite a bit of corruption. It has almost nothing to do with Ukrainian "sovereignty".
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:32 am to Ace Midnight
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, but this war has been extended to facilitate quite a bit of corruption
Precisely.
The war is going exactly how we want it. I dont hate the Ukraine, I just cannot stand our foreign policy.
This post was edited on 11/4/23 at 7:33 am
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:33 am to GumboPot
Yeh us. Could have been avoided altogether 18 months ago if so many weren't compromised.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:39 am to NC_Tigah
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with Russian peacekeepers there,
Can you imagine living in an occupied state? That’s gotta be so bizarre.
quote:what was that?
What you seem to be overlooking is the role Ukraine played in alienating the peoples of its eastern reaches.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:42 am to 4cubbies
I don't care. Let them fight, but stop spending our treasure.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:49 am to 4cubbies
quote:Because you probably don't understand what the consensus here actually is.
I really don’t understand how the consensus here seems to be supportive of Putin
I've used the rattlesnake analogy many times. Here it is again.
quote:Meanwhile, you imply those who don't blame the snake are somehow in love with it, or that we somehow trust the rattlesnake, or in the words of eloquent OT posters that we want to suck its d***? Obviously that is not the case.
Putin/Russia is like rattlesnake on a forest trail. Ukraine and NATO went hiking down the trail.
They came across the snake. It coiled and rattled, sensing a threat.
NATO told the rattler "Calm down! We won't hurt you. Just move aside. We have every right to walk this path." Then nudged Ukraine forward. The snake struck. Ukraine got bitten.
You're blaming the snake.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:50 am to GumboPot
Bout damn time. We could have done this several trillion of our dollars ago since the writing has been on the wall since the beginning of this conflict. I guess there were kickback to be received first.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:52 am to 4cubbies
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Can you imagine living in an occupied state? That’s gotta be so bizarre.
Get the US out of it and this war is settled quickly.
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:54 am to 4cubbies
quote:You're kidding?
what was that?
The anti-Russian-speaker laws, ethnic disadvantagement, violent US-aided anti-constitutional overthrow of a duly elected President from the their region, etc.?
Posted on 11/4/23 at 7:56 am to GumboPot
They should all be tried for war crimes.
The US government that is.
The US government that is.
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