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re: Updated report - shooting at Brown University, 11 casualties
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:23 am to Penrod
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:23 am to Penrod
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The argument against gun control is not that it’s impossible, it’s that they’ll just use other weapons if they can’t get guns. Also, the second amendment argument.
The second amendment is a pretty strong argument.
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Obviously if guns are allowed in the surrounding city and countryside they won’t be able to stop someone from carrying one onto campus.
Like Mexico and the US?
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:32 am to BBONDS25
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The second amendment is a pretty strong argument.
I love 2A. It’s the ultimate trump card.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:01 am to Penrod
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Europe has virtually eliminated guns, so I don’t know why you think this is clever.
So has Australia
Your turn.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:17 am to TrueTiger
CNN’s description of the perp was a “30-something year old man wearing dark clothing.” Lmao
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:23 am to 0
I don’t understand your reply.
Explain
Explain
Posted on 12/14/25 at 5:39 am to troyt37
Casualties are not necessarily deaths, people.
Correct.
Casualties = wounded + dead
Correct.
Casualties = wounded + dead
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:10 am to Jugbow
Hard to fathom how anyone can even make that mistake. Either you’ve got the person or you don’t.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:14 am to BBONDS25
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Like Mexico and the US?
No, guns are legal here in the US. It would be more like Europe and the rest of the world.
I don’t know why some keep making the argument that gun control is not possible. It’s a foolish argument with the UK, Sweden, etcetera sitting right there as glaring cases in which it has worked totally. And if you rest this important case on foolish arguments you will eventually lose.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:31 am to Penrod
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It’s a foolish argument with the UK, Sweden, etcetera sitting right there as glaring cases in which it has worked totally.
No, in the UK they just stab each other with knives and throw acid on people.
The UK did try do a #knifefree movement in 2019, but it was deemed racist because they used chicken boxes.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/special-knifefree-chicken-boxes-launched-across-the-country
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:33 am to Penrod
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I don’t know why some keep making the argument that gun control is not possible.
Some limited effect can happen when you take enough freedom away.
The UK is seeing a rise in gun crime and smuggling. Islamist love them some guns and are finding ways to get them in.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:35 am to BoomerandSooner
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No, in the UK they just stab each other
Yeah, no shite! And THAT’s a valid argument. But saying it’s not possible to control guns is a foolish one.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:36 am to BoomerandSooner
As for Sweeden...
https://bra.se/english/statistics/shootings-and-violence#:~:text=Over%20the%20last%20decade%2C%20the,rise%20from%20the%20year%202005.
Wrong again. Gun homicides are up.
https://bra.se/english/statistics/shootings-and-violence#:~:text=Over%20the%20last%20decade%2C%20the,rise%20from%20the%20year%202005.
Wrong again. Gun homicides are up.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:43 am to Penrod
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But saying it’s not possible to control guns is a foolish one.
It is when we had a President import ten million plus third world savages into our country with no vetting.
Criminals will find ways to get guns or another weapon to accomplish their goal by any means necessary. Remove the ability for citizens to protect themself from criminals and crime and murder will rise.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:47 am to Penrod
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But saying it’s not possible to control guns is a foolish one.
I'll consider giving up my right to own firearms when you give up your right to vote. Your rights are no more special or protected than mine are.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:48 am to Penrod
Weren’t the same countries as those.
If we were very homogeneous then this wouldn’t even need to be debated
If we were very homogeneous then this wouldn’t even need to be debated
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:49 am to BoomerandSooner
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Remove the ability for citizens to protect themself from criminals and crime and murder will rise.
This is far from certain. My guess would be no short term effect on crime but a long term decline in crime. Certainly the UK and European countries have much lower crime rates than the US, but they started with a very different population, so it’s hard to tease out what caused what.
Whatever the effect on crime, the effect on government’s ability to tyrannize its citizens would be large. And that’s the effect that the we should have our eyes on.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:53 am to donRANDOMnumbers
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If we were very homogeneous then this wouldn’t even need to be debated
Yep.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:55 am to Penrod
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Certainly the UK and European countries have much lower crime rates than the US, but they started with a very different population, so it’s hard to tease out what caused what.
Here's a little hint...
Look at Europe's violent crime rates since they flung open their borders to the 3rd World. They're catching up to the USA with a quickness.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:00 am to Penrod
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My guess would be no short term effect on crime but a long term decline in crime.
You guess? Let's look at the Aussies violent crime statistics. One of those "guns are bad countries."
https://www.statista.com/statistics/991098/australia-people-imprisoned-homicide/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/991191/australia-people-imprisoned-assault/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/991186/australia-people-imprisoned-sexual-assault/
You are wrong again. Shocker.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:13 am to Penrod
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Whatever the effect on crime, the effect on government’s ability to tyrannize its citizens would be large. And that’s the effect that the we should have our eyes on.
Bingo. JP Morgan rule.....
The good and honorable reason: stop "gun" violence
The real reason: subjugate the populace
Want proof, a Freudian slip, when someone says the real reason out loud. President Joe Biden "These MAGA folks have guns, we have f-16s". Why would he ever make such a statement unless they were fearful that the populace had guns to defend themselves against tyranny?
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