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Until we have transparent and auditable election systems, we should presume fraud

Posted on 1/4/22 at 1:51 pm
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/4/22 at 1:51 pm
Until election reform addresses this. The public should presume that elections are fraudulent until proven otherwise.

Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 1/4/22 at 1:58 pm to
Rhetorical question but have the Republicans done anything in this past year to give us any faith that future elections won't be wrought with fraud?
Posted by Bwmdx
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Posted on 1/4/22 at 2:10 pm to
Actually, some of the republican state legislatures are passing election reform. Hence, why democrats are pushing so hard for national take over of them.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/4/22 at 2:12 pm to

Some but it's not a universal push from Republicans.

Which causes me to think that a lot of them like it the way it is and don't want to change it.
Posted by IbleedRWB
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Posted on 1/4/22 at 2:13 pm to
Presume? I’m past that. I’m confirmed
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 1/4/22 at 2:13 pm to
And this is exactly why the Dims want to permanently install mass ballot harvesting through mail in ballots with little to no chain of custody.....and the Rs in DC are worthless, they will do little to stop the Dim Deception legislation.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 1/4/22 at 2:48 pm to
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.and the Rs in DC are worthless, they will do little to stop the Dim Deception legislation.


But please donate to the RNC! We're gonna stop those pesky Dems!
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 8:58 am to
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But please donate to the RNC!


As long as Liz Cheney types are part of the RNC, nope.

Some select individual Republicans, yes.

And I doubt this would ever happen, but I wouldn't rule out helping a moderate democrat beat a communist.
Posted by Liberator
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:25 am to
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elections are fraudulent


Does anyone doubt that this has indeed been the case since Computers began the "counting"(D)? (not to mention *cough* JFK, 1960)

I've always found it extremely odd that the out-of-touch (D)s ALWAYS scored 50%+ -- especially in the Senate. Process has been a bad joke for a loooong time.
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:16 am to
paper ballots

Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:26 am to
Imo.. some Republicans take advantage of the bullshite to win each of their elections. McConnell comes to mind. I don't believe he's that popular, that he keeps winning that shite, for decades.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:29 am to
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Rhetorical question but have the Republicans done anything in this past year to give us any faith that future elections won't be wrought with fraud?


What could "republicans" have done beyond tweet? The left controls the federal government.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:30 am to
I think they are. You just don’t hear about it
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:32 am to
Smother them in lawsuits. Put them on defense so they can’t continue their offense
Posted by HurricaneTiger
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:38 am to
If they coordinate, there is a ton. Look how lock step the democrats are. Look how often the republicans defect. Look at how we actually got some of what we wanted when an outsider became President.

Most of them either A) love the status quo and want it to continue as it helps them in some way or actually agrees with their wanted policies, or B) are too much of a pushover to actually fight for what people want.

Trump showed that some of the policies people want aren’t just fantasies, and actually work. It’s why he was hated on both sides of the isle in Congress. It’s why we escalated so fast.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:39 am to
That’s why republicans should take advantage of it too. But, make it so absurd that the democrats hand is forced to make changes to secure the elections.
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