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re: UHC exec killer wasn’t read rights before questioning and warranties search conducted?
Posted on 12/6/25 at 7:59 pm to imjustafatkid
Posted on 12/6/25 at 7:59 pm to imjustafatkid
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You have to also not talk.
Correct. If YOU reengage conversation with the cops then that’s on you.
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Posted on 12/6/25 at 7:59 pm to Kafka
will this get 500+ replies like her last thread?
slo would kill for her numbers
slo would kill for her numbers
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:00 pm to 4cubbies
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Seems like the person being questioned could also just leave. Walk away.
Could attempt to. At that point the police either arrest you because they have probable cause to do so, or they let you leave.
However, they also can detain you while they conduct an investigation to determine if there is probable cause to arrest you.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:01 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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Correct. If YOU reengage conversation with the cops then that’s on you.
Yep. Totally your choice. Saying "I don't want to talk" isn't a "cop can't talk to me" get of of jail free card.
This post was edited on 12/6/25 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:01 pm to 4cubbies
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Read the article. I didn’t make that determination.
He's making fun of you, smooth brain
The term is not 'warranties search', it's warrantless search, and even then it's not really a thing when they search you and your possessions when being arrested
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:02 pm to imjustafatkid
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However, they also can detain you while they conduct an investigation to determine if there is probable cause to arrest you.
For how long? Does this vary by state or jurisdiction?
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:02 pm to 4cubbies
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Seems like the person being questioned could also just leave. Walk away.
You can be detained without being arrested and the cops will tell you that are not free to leave while they investigate.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:02 pm to imjustafatkid
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Since when does this apply to a bag you had with you when you were arrested?
After arrest, yes they can inventory you. But then a defense attorney would attack the arrest itself. Such as no probable cause. Then anything in the bag is fruit of the poisonous tree and excluded.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:03 pm to 4cubbies
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For how long? Does this vary by state or jurisdiction?
No set time and it depends on the type of stop, but it must always be reasonable and no longer than necessary to complete the purpose of the stop.
This post was edited on 12/6/25 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:04 pm to stout
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The term is not 'warranties search', it's warrantless search, and even then it's not really a thing when they search you and your possessions when being arrested
Could you imagine if this lawyer were to win this argument?
We already have situations where stupid cops don't perform a thorough enough search and get injured by perps. This lawyer winning this argument would just be inviting this to happen every time.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:04 pm to stout
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He's making fun of you, smooth brain
The term is not 'warranties search', it's warrantless search,
Oh I didn’t even notice the typo until you pointed it out
Sick burn, guys.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:04 pm to 4cubbies
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My friend called me this morning as soon as my eyes opened to debrief this.
You really need to log off and come back to reality. Find some hobbies
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:05 pm to 4cubbies
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Does this vary by state or jurisdiction?
It’s part of the US Constitution/Bill of Rights. You should read it sometime.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:05 pm to 4cubbies
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For how long?
Until the investigation is complete and they've determined if there is or isn't probable cause to arrest you.
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Does this vary by state or jurisdiction?
No.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:06 pm to 4cubbies
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Oh I didn’t even notice the typo until you pointed it out
But you tell us how you are super intelligent and read all the time because you are so intelligent
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:07 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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After arrest, yes they can inventory you. But then a defense attorney would attack the arrest itself. Such as no probable cause. Then anything in the bag is fruit of the poisonous tree and excluded.
In this case, they definitely had probable cause. Even if his statements are inadmissible in court, they were definitely enough to give the police probable cause to arrest him.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:07 pm to imjustafatkid
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Until the investigation is complete and they've determined if there is or isn't probable cause to arrest you.
This seems incredibly subjective.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:07 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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It’s part of the US Constitution/Bill of Rights. You should read it sometime.
Cubbies should start watching some "1st Amendment auditors" on Youtube
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:07 pm to 4cubbies
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This seems incredibly subjective.
It isn't.
Posted on 12/6/25 at 8:08 pm to 4cubbies
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This seems incredibly subjective.
It is. That is why you are entitled to a probable cause hearing.
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