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Philzilla2k
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re: UAP primer: essential information for what is to come
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Crash retrieval of craft from Italy/Mussolini pre Roswell (my take: again, think connection to Nazi, Axis powers...)

Oh no, the Nazi bell. This nonsense still floating around?


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Humanity is cyclical and repeats. We go from prehistorical ancient nomads to what we are today, then a cataclysm destroys it all and we lose everything including our history, setting us back to primitive nomadic barbarians. Supporting this is the fact that we have developed everything we have from prehistory to now in <10000 years, an unbelievably rapid pace and short enough that all of recorded human history could be repeated numerous times. Whatever humans remain from that civilization try to pass on and preserve what they can and this forms the new foundation for religions, beliefs, and advancement.

Some of those people descended from the previous advanced civilization may exist concurrently with our society, and may be what we consider aliens/ufos/ect. They may contact and influence us. These things explain the ancient wonders and various archeological anomalies. I'd say based on our rapid development, we are crescendoing to the cataclysmic event. The most powerful truth is "there is nothing new under the sun"...in fact everything from hunter gatherers to the advanced technological society we have has been done many times before.

One fact that gives hope, and that i dont know if anyone has considered, is that anything we do can be undone...every wrong righted, every injustice corrected, and everything humanity ever lost regained. That which was stolen restored. Every evil punished. Everything you are, have done, and have experienced is recorded in your DNA. Using future genetic technology, the dead can be resurrected. The truth found out. Minds read. People can be judged. Death is no longer a permanent escape. Secrets can no longer be kept. Every truth revealed.
It is all encoded in your dna and hormones. We can bring back a caveman and talk to him. We could recreate Jeffery Epstein in his previous state through cloning, and convict and torture him for a 100 years for his crimes. This is what is meant by the final judgement described by religion. And it will come. For the just it would be a great joy, and the unjust would fear nothing more

Just my crazy 2 cents


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Blah, blah, fricking, blah. SHOW ME THE BABBY, not the fricking bathwater....


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Just my crazy 2 cents
Only true statement in that tripe.


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re: UAP primer: essential information for what is to come
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there is absolutely nothing out there beyond the roof of your Cave of reflected lights. Ok, Plato.
Don't be stupid. Laughing at the absurd list of "possibilities" isn't denial of alien life.
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Would you take TPA and dunk her/him to see if he-she floats like a witch?
huh?


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Corbell is supposed to have another info drop tomorrow at noon Pacific

“Fringe” is speculating it will be the rumored large triangle emerging from the water vid/image


Nope. Just some less than impressive radar.


LINK


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Nope. Just some less than impressive radar.


Does it bug anyone else that this stuff is being released mostly by Jeremy Corbell in a drip drip fashion with no context except what he delivers via his posts and interviews. Why wasnt this radar video released at the same time as the Omaha flir video and some context given by Navy to explain how what was going on? The general public isn't piecing this stuff together and having to rely on Jeremy Corbell as the arbiter of knowledge is ridiculous.

Maybe thats the point. Just drip little snippets that dont really provide any info or data to satiate certain interest. I guess we will see.


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re: UAP primer: essential information for what is to come
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/ufo-national-security-unidentified-aerial-phenomena-federal-report-bryan-bender-analysis/#app

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How the subject of UFOs has evolved from fringe to federal probe

The Director of National Intelligence is collecting data across several federal agencies to release a report on what officials call "unidentified aerial phenomena." Politico senior national correspondent Bryan Bender joins CBSN's Lana Zak to share his reporting on how UFOs became a national security concern and former Senator Harry Reid's role in bringing the subject to Capitol Hill.


At around 7:20...




Sourced from another thread:
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Air Marshal Sir Robert Victor Goddard who was a senior commander in the Royal Air Force during WWII had this to same about UFOs during a public lecture in 1969:

“That while it may be that some operators of UFO are normally the paraphysical denizens of a planet other than Earth, there is no logical need for this to be so. For, if the materiality of UFO is paraphysical (and consequently normally invisible), UFO could more plausibly be creations of an invisible world coincident with the space of our physical Earth planet than creations in the paraphysical realms of any other physical planet in the solar system… Given that real UFO are paraphysical, capable of reflecting light like ghosts; and given also that (according to many observers) they remain visible as they change position at ultrahigh speeds from one point to another, it follows that those that remain visible in transition do not dematerialize for that swift transition, and therefore, their mass must be of a diaphanous (very diffuse) nature, and their substance relatively etheric… The observed validity of this supports the paraphysical assertion and makes the likelihood of UFO being Earth-created greater than the likelihood of their creation on another planet… The astral world of illusion, which (on psychical evidence) is greatly inhabited by illusion-prone spirits, is well known for its multifarious imaginative activities and exhortations. Seemingly some of its denizens are eager to exemplify principalities and powers. Others pronounce upon morality, spirituality, Deity, etc. All of these astral exponents who invoke human consciousness may be sincere, but many of their theses may be framed to propagate some special phantasm, perhaps of an earlier incarnation, or to indulge an inveterate and continuing technological urge toward materialistic progress, or simply to astonish and disturb the gullible for the devil of it."


The Navy researcher Salvadore Pias speaks in very similar terms (linked earlier in this thread...)

For those who invoke the limits of interstellar travel...

Reality is weirder than you can imagine (think paranormal and death/survival of consciousness as included in this line of thinking)
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I see now why the government doesn't want us to know this stuff, more than likely would terrify people.


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re: UAP primer: essential information for what is to come
Interesting discourse. Amazing how what they are discussing (exotic material in the hands of MIC contractors) is now just common speak on cable news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9MnICZqgpA

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Pentagon set to release government UFO reports
35,328 views•Jun 1, 2021


Fox News
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Sean Cahill, Retired U.S. Navy Chief Master-At-Arms, details the UFOs he witnessed while in the military.


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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjMf309RzI&feature=youtu.be

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Tucker Carlson - The New UFO Threat: The Pentagon Is Hiding Everything
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TuckerOnly 3.22K subscribers SUBSCRIBE Published on Jun 1, 2021

Tucker Carlson - The New UFO Threat: The Pentagon Is Hiding Everything.


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Lue Elizondo on Tucker Carlson tonight - The government is trying to discredit him and is illegally hiding knowledge about UAP from the congress and the American public.


From a different thread, report is supposed to be out June 25. Sourced from Bryan Bender (Politico) from input from the DNI...


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I give you the founder of the Intellectual Dark Web...

They discuss many of the esoteric themes I bring here
Weinstein brings up good points; but he is limited by the fact he cannot compute that there may be a breakaway civilization (off world/“out of time”)


Going to share some weird stuff tonight

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uacyRm9YcpI&feature=youtu.be

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Eric Weinstein: Govt. UFO Disclosure w/ Nate Scholz on ?? Clubhouse
| 1 June 2021 |Clubhouse Podcast 1,202 views 42 3 Share Save Report Clubhouse Podcast SUBSCRIBE

Published on Jun 2, 2021 Listen to Eric Weinstein & Nate Scholz talk about Govt. UFO Disclosure on ?? Clubhouse.


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https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/nr06aj/eric_weinstein_on_the_possible_scientific/

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Eric Weinstein on the possible scientific revolution concerning UFO’s. Ties into the “trans-dimensional” theory.


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re: UAP primer: essential information for what is to come
Russian divers encounter underwater creatures.
Quest

And an oldie, The Alien Interview.
Alien Interview


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Enadious
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trans-dimensional


What are their preferred pronouns?


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ThinePreparedAni
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Feedback from recent NY Times article

This clip summarizes pretty much the way I view it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5IIhqsoK_o

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Saagar Enjeti: Pentagon, Media COVER UP Bombshell UFO Findings
17,136 views•Jun 8, 2021

Breaking Points
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Controlled "leak" to craft a narrative for those who will just look dismissively at a headline and not read any further


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By far the most interesting thread on TD in my opinion.


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ThinePreparedAni
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I sense a phase 2 is starting

Looks as though some of the efforts up to this point were to get the US to admit that this is not our exotic tech

Soon after, Lue went on Tucker to discuss how unlikely these things are to be Russian or Chinese (presenting into that similar sightings have occurred for 70+ years):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dfibbq-ih8o

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Tucker says it's time for answers
764,414 views 21K 687 Share Save Report Fox News 7.4M subscribers SUBSCRIBE

Published on May 18, 2021 'UFOs' author joins 'Tucker Carlson Tonight' to discuss why US may have 'covered up' UFO information. #FoxNews #Tucker


Lue gave a mainstream interview today where he is speculating more about what this is (he had not done this readily in mainstream interviews):

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GcH5nuqa-0w

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Luis Elizondo, Former Director, Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program
(Full Stream: 6/8) 10K views 1.3K 18 Share Save Report Washington Post Live 24.3K subscribers


In short, speculation is varied (but he leans to extra-dimensional)

My additions for background:

https://prepareforchange.net/2020/10/25/declassified-fbi-document-beings-from-other-dimensions-visit-earth-regularly/

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Declassified FBI Document: Beings From Other Dimensions Visit Earth Regularly
By Derek Knauss -October 25, 2020




Check the digits (date)

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The interdimensional hypothesis was proposed by a number of Ufologists like Jacques Vallée who suggests that unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and related events (such as alien sightings) imply visits from beings from other “realities” or “dimensions” that coexist separately with ours.


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In other words, Vallée and other authors suggest that aliens are real but exist not in our dimension, but in another reality, that coexists with our own. This theory is an alternative to the extraterrestrial hypothesis which suggests that aliens are advanced spacefaring beings that exist in our universe.


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Paranormal investigator Brad Steiger wrote that “we are dealing with a multidimensional paraphysical phenomenon that is largely originating from planet Earth.” Other ufologists, such as John Ankerberg and John Weldon, who also favor the interdimensional hypothesis argue that UFO sightings fit in the spiritualist phenomenon. Commenting on the disparity between the Extraterrestrial hypothesis and the reports that people have made of UFO encounters, Ankerberg and Weldon wrote that “the UFO phenomenon simply does not behave like extraterrestrial visitors.” This Interdimensional Hypothesis took a step further in the book UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse published in 1970, where author John Keel linked UFOs to supernatural concepts such as ghosts and demons. Some advocates of the extraterrestrial theory have embraced some of the ideas set forth by the Interdimensional Hypothesis because it does a better job explaining how ‘aliens’ could travel in space across vast distances. The distance between the stars makes interstellar travel impractical using conventional means and since no one has demonstrated an antigravity engine or any other machine that would allow a traveler to move across the cosmos at speed faster than light, the Interdimensional Hypothesis makes much more sense. According to this theory, is not necessary to use any method of propulsion because it maintains that UFOs are not spacecraft, but devices that travel between different realities. However, they still need to get from one reality to the other, right?


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Declassified FBI document — beings from other dimensions exist While all of the above may sound like something coming from a sci-fi movie, there is a peculiar declassified top-secret document in the FBI archives which speaks of interdimensional beings, and how their ‘spacecraft’ have the ability to materialize and dematerialize in our own dimension.


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Here is a transcript of some of the most important details of the report: Part of the disks carry crews; others are under remote control. Their mission is peaceful. The visitors contemplate settling on this plane. These visitors are human-like but much larger in size. They are not excarnate Earth people but come from their own world. They do NOT come from a planet as we use the word, but from an etheric planet which interpenetrates with our own and is not perceptible to us. The bodies of the visitors, and the craft, automatically materialize on entering the vibratory rate of our dense matter. The disks possess a type of radiant energy or a ray, which will easily disintegrate any attacking ship. They reenter the etheric at will, and so simply disappear from our vision, without trace. The region from which they come is not the “astral plane,” but corresponds to the Lokas or Talas. Students of osoteric matters will understand these terms. They probably cannot be reached by radio, but probably can be by radar. if a signal system can be devised for that (apparatus).


We mainly can “see” them on FLIR...

The paradox is that physical , material science will always have a hard time “proving” above

Spirit, soul, and higher forces on higher planes (ancients are laughing at us and our modern progress along with the hell we are creating for ourselves. With great “pride” I might add)

Fin
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Regarding things from other dimensions we cannot percieve...

Interesting commentary from a Catholic source
What does the Vatican really know?

https://thecatholicuniverse.com/water-connection-with-the-strange-objects-that-fly-through-our-skies/

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Water connection with the strange objects that fly through our skies

The Catholic Universe columnist Sean Ellard continues his examination of the current round of Pentagon disclosures in the USA on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) – or as they are more popularly known in modern culture, Unidentified Flying Objects


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Ultra-Strange

According to Elizondo, one area of speculation looks at whether these strange craft that are being reported are being controlled by something deemed ‘ultra-terrestrials’. Some kind of earth-based entity that is more advanced than we are and could predate modern human civilisation. It might be that we are being observed by them using probes, or the more pedestrian sounding, drones, which could account for the majority of benign sightings and encounters. Like naturalist Dian Fossey observing gorillas in the Virunga Mountains, (only, I’m pretty sure Fossey’s favourite Silverback, Digit, never acquired a hydrogen bomb) we might just be a curious and lesser developed version of them to be observed, not concerned about. We may be seeing them, and vice versa. Perhaps our inferior status made us irrelevant to their greater purpose – until the nuclear age. But, as former US President Barak Obama agrees, these things are real, unidentified and likely not American. So what could they be? It might depend where they are from.


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Below the surface

USO’s (Unidentified Submersible Objects) seem to be another common oddity with no explanation that seems to overlap. There have been reports for decades of submarines encountering things travelling at seemingly impossible speeds, many hundreds of knots underwater at extreme depths, with no idea what it is. Sonar operators have offered stories of strange readings similar to those of their surface companions monitoring radar. And considering how little we know about the bottom of the ocean, it’s easy to spot where some of knowledge deficits might emerge. Despite that, maritime encounters, both civilian and military, with strange crafts and glowing objects, may go back centuries.


My add-in:

Oannes, in Mesopotamian mythology, an amphibious being who taught mankind wisdom. Oannes, as described by the Babylonian priest Berosus, had the form of a fish but with the head of a man under his fish’s head and under his fish’s tail the feet of a man. In the daytime he came up to the seashore of the Persian Gulf and instructed mankind in writing, the arts, and the sciences. Oannes was probably the emissary of Ea, god of the freshwater deep and of wisdom.



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Bad neighbours

Humans have gone from warring bi-pedal hominids to a creature with the power to end all life, without the wisdom to understand why they shouldn’t have it. I wouldn’t give a handgun to a chimpanzee and a sit across from it indefinitely. So imagine your violent-prone neighbour acquires the ability to obliterate your entire neighbourhood over domestic squabbles about books. It doesn’t bode well for anyone. We are at a time when so much of our collective faith in whatever we choose to believe, however we choose to see the world, and our place in it, is challenged in ways we may never have imagined. As the Vatican prepares to shepherd its followers through the coming uncertainty, it is becoming clear that we all must work to unify ourselves and bring humanity together. Because, as former President Regan said to the UN, we must ask how quickly humanity will push petty differences aside in the face of an off-world existential threat.


Muh cannot / would not cross interstellar space...
A presence that exists “alongside” us makes more sense


Watch the water...
The Lord walks on water (or in the water???)



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https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/nvxjrl/south_china_sea_the_event_of_the_summer_how_much/

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South China Sea - The Event of the Summer. How much nuclear tech is congregating in that area? Deep Sea Rare Earth Metals is what they're after. Did we poke a nest?


Reference Trump EO
Watch the water

Reconcile Trump not particularly believing in “aliens”
Technically they are not...


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https://www.reddit.com/r/aliens/comments/nx4qzx/starfish_prime_conducted_some_emp_tests_and_it/

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Starfish Prime conducted some EMP tests and it caused a UAP to crash into the ocean and was later recovered.Can EMP bursts break gravity bubble of UAPS? Lue Elizondo answers Video


https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=2338&v=LYUHEC4RAkM&feature=youtu.be

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Luis Elizondo - Advancing The UFO Reality & Cognitive Human Interface (ETP 009) 2,880 views 354 7 Share Save Report
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Published on Jun 10, 2021

It was an honor to sit down with Lue Elizondo on Engaging The Phenomenon and discuss The UFO Reality, CE-5, AATIP, Human Cognitive Interface, and more. we talked about crash retrievals, materials, the UFO Threat narrative, and more. Appreciate Lue taking the time to discuss these topics.


Summary: Lue speculates that nukes create EMPs that disable the crafts

My add in: for those who dismiss that they come here from another planet and crash (wrong premise)

Correct premise: they are right here with us, but difficult to perceive. Nuclear detonations disrupt these crafts causing them to crash in our reality. Most of the crash retrievals were near nuclear testing sites. These things are interested in our nuclear tech because it can disrupt them. Perhaps hot spot are when we get closer to critical areas on our planet with nuclear weapons...



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