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re: UAP /paranormal primer: essential information for what is to come
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:39 pm to CCT
Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:39 pm to CCT
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Just got back…the link is dead, BoarEd. I used Duck Duck Go and cannot find any reference to the Brazil harassment like you described. I’m very interested in this.
Weird, I had no issues. Did you try copying the link address and pasting it in? Or copy it here, just add the "https" in front of the colon:
://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/2738102
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Posted on 10/27/22 at 1:43 pm to CCT
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cannot find any reference to the Brazil harassment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr1NrnsdY5I
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Colares Part 1: They Came From the Sea and Sky
Red Panda Koala
16.6K subscribers
42,398 views Feb 11, 2021
This video is part 1 of a series covering the Colares UFO flap that occured in Northern Brazil from late 1977 to early 1978.
Good channel for content. 3 part series on Brazil
This content was also covered on History Channel program, Unidentified
Posted on 10/27/22 at 7:34 pm to TigersN_Beer
What is a bit strange is the change in the look for ufo's over time. Except for the balls of light.
I've gone back and forth over the years thinking its ours vs its theirs. Perhaps in some unknown way its both?
I've gone back and forth over the years thinking its ours vs its theirs. Perhaps in some unknown way its both?
Posted on 10/27/22 at 8:57 pm to ThinePreparedAni
That works! Thanks!
Posted on 10/27/22 at 9:17 pm to goatmilker
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg0YLxT_Rbg&t=0s
Pretty interesting conversation
Mellon strongly speculates that there is a “program” above oversight that is being handled by private contractors
Pay very specific attention to the fact that they are renaming the joint office of investigation to include aerospace and underwater (from just aerial). Mellon points out that the Air Force has been largely able to abstain from comment due to this technicality. He suggests that the Air Force is aware of unidentified phenomena in deep space that does not meet the standard for aerial but now would be included in aerospace…
Melon also points out that if the Air Force were to present phenomena in space it would be very difficult for skeptics to refute this as being mistaken natural phenomena. Curiously, they have remained overtly silent on this matter
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TOP SECRET UFO PROJECTS - Interview with Pentagon Insider Christopher Mellon ExoMagazinTV 1.2K Likes 22,734 Views Oct 25 2022
The once third-highest-ranking intelligence man in the Pentagon suspects that the U.S. has recovered and reverse-engineered crashed UFOs. Former senior intelligence official Christopher Mellon works behind the scenes to ensure that politicians are informed about UFOs and that new laws are enacted so that the issue finally receives attention. Among other things, he ensured that the UAP Task Force was required to submit an official report on UFO findings by the U.S. military in June 2021. At the Ufology World Congress in Barcelona, Robert Fleischer recently had the opportunity to interview him - about what the military knows about UFOs and especially about what is still hidden in top secret projects so far..
Pretty interesting conversation
Mellon strongly speculates that there is a “program” above oversight that is being handled by private contractors
Pay very specific attention to the fact that they are renaming the joint office of investigation to include aerospace and underwater (from just aerial). Mellon points out that the Air Force has been largely able to abstain from comment due to this technicality. He suggests that the Air Force is aware of unidentified phenomena in deep space that does not meet the standard for aerial but now would be included in aerospace…
Melon also points out that if the Air Force were to present phenomena in space it would be very difficult for skeptics to refute this as being mistaken natural phenomena. Curiously, they have remained overtly silent on this matter
Posted on 10/27/22 at 9:34 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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Melon also points out that if the Air Force were to present phenomena in space it would be very difficult for skeptics to refute this as being mistaken natural phenomena. Curiously, they have remained overtly silent on this matter
100%
Meteor, flares, balloons and swamp gas are out the window.
I've wondered and have not heard anyone ask NASA...you are pointing Webb at every planet in the system. What about Earth?
If you ask why? Its was stated before launch that Webb could spot the heat from a firefly on the moon. Even super alien tech may produce such a small heat sig Hmmmmmmmm
Posted on 10/27/22 at 10:00 pm to goatmilker
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What is a bit strange is the change in the look for ufo's over time. Except for the balls of light.
Totally agree. And they tend to reflect the current "UFO zeitgeist" of their respective times, if you will.
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I've gone back and forth over the years thinking its ours vs its theirs. Perhaps in some unknown way its both
Yeah, this is tricky, I was a hardline skeptic until the Tic Tac but I've softened up a bit on my stance. Still skeptical, but in my mind I think rapid interstellar travel/ET visitations/interdimensional travel (whatever the hell that means) is just too good to be true to happen in my lifetime. No way I'd be THAT lucky.
But if the eyewitness accounts by the military and the data that supposedly supports those reports are true--in other words, if those objects are performing as advertised, still a big "if" imo until we see the data--I cannot possibly see how they are of terrestrial origin. The accelerative forces are insane; a leap in technology that great is orders of magnitude beyond what we have. Theoretically possible, sure, but still in the realm of science fiction for us.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 10:05 pm to goatmilker
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I've wondered and have not heard anyone ask NASA...you are pointing Webb at every planet in the system. What about Earth?
If you ask why? Its was stated before launch that Webb could spot the heat from a firefly on the moon. Even super alien tech may produce such a small heat sig Hmmmmmmm
One issue I see there is Webb's exposure time is measured in hours, not minutes or seconds. IIRC, the images we've seen so far take upwards of half a day in lens exposure time, that wouldn't work for imaging Earth given it's just too close. No idea what the Jupiter exposure time was, I'll try to look that up.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 10:09 pm to TigersN_Beer
Its the early dates to me.
1945 WWII Foo Fighters(balls of light) all before "mass hysteria" or "fame hunters." The pilot in 1948 ND having a dog fight for 25 min with a ball of light also witnesed by those at the airport and another pilot. Confirmed by the military.
It really cast doubt on its all just us and our tech or bad eye witnesses. Also it seems there was a uptic when we developed nuclear tech. Were they following planes in WWII they thought were carrying? And even the military admits UFO's seemed to gather around nuke sites.
1945 WWII Foo Fighters(balls of light) all before "mass hysteria" or "fame hunters." The pilot in 1948 ND having a dog fight for 25 min with a ball of light also witnesed by those at the airport and another pilot. Confirmed by the military.
It really cast doubt on its all just us and our tech or bad eye witnesses. Also it seems there was a uptic when we developed nuclear tech. Were they following planes in WWII they thought were carrying? And even the military admits UFO's seemed to gather around nuke sites.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 10:22 pm to goatmilker
Totally agree and those men were a different breed, God rest their souls. There was no UFO culture to be influenced by, they suffered through a ridiculous number of hardships people nowadays could not fathom and their reports were clear, concise, and they simply did not give a frick if you believed them or not.
"This is what I saw, never seen anything like it, make of it what you will and let me get back to my life."
"This is what I saw, never seen anything like it, make of it what you will and let me get back to my life."
Posted on 10/27/22 at 10:27 pm to TigersN_Beer
That is exactly what the military who interviewed on these early reports said about these guys in the now released early stage reports from the USAF.
It was their credibility that led to Project Blue Book.
Posted on 10/27/22 at 10:33 pm to TigersN_Beer
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The accelerative forces are insane; a leap in technology that great is orders of magnitude beyond what we have. Theoretically possible, sure, but still in the realm of science fiction for us.
Ask yourself why we have nuclear powered submarines and aircraft carriers, but still use highly volatile rocket fuel for our spacecraft.
The story I've heard, and tend to believe, says it's because our first generation spacecraft (1950's) were nuclear powered and that tech remains classified to this day, 70+ years later.
There is no telling how advanced we are off the books. Trump says we have the "most powerful weapons in the universe and that we are about to start using them."
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 10:34 pm
Posted on 10/27/22 at 11:23 pm to BoarEd
Gonna break this down piece by piece.
Consequences, mostly, but logistical issues as well. A nuclear-powered anything is inherently far more dangerous than a rocket-propelled anything. Military aircraft still crash pretty frequently and sometimes over civilian areas, whereas submarines and aircraft carriers experience a relatively low incident rate. And when something does go wrong with the latter, rare as that may be, they are in the ocean where the casualty rate is limited to the occupants.
I'm sure we've tested or at least attempted to build and test a nuclear powered aircraft, but without any hard data, can't say much about that.
Absent ETs providing us tech, I think we can say with absolute confidence we have not discovered technology that allows us to go from 0 to 100,000 MPH and back to 0 again in under a few seconds (anecdotal Tic Tac report with alleged corresponding classified RADAR data). I'd be happy to delve into the physics behind why this simply is not possible in 2022 if you'd like, otherwise I'll keep this post short(er).
Did he really say this? I believe you, I just haven't heard it before.
Trump is sometimes prone to hyperbole but this would easily take the cake. In order to actually know that, you would need to have access to the universe, which is obviously absurd.
How soon are we going to start using the "universe's most powerful weapons" and what the hell does that even mean??
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Ask yourself why we have nuclear powered submarines and aircraft carriers, but still use highly volatile rocket fuel for our spacecraft.
Consequences, mostly, but logistical issues as well. A nuclear-powered anything is inherently far more dangerous than a rocket-propelled anything. Military aircraft still crash pretty frequently and sometimes over civilian areas, whereas submarines and aircraft carriers experience a relatively low incident rate. And when something does go wrong with the latter, rare as that may be, they are in the ocean where the casualty rate is limited to the occupants.
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The story I've heard, and tend to believe, says it's because our first generation spacecraft (1950's) were nuclear powered and that tech remains classified to this day, 70+ years later.
I'm sure we've tested or at least attempted to build and test a nuclear powered aircraft, but without any hard data, can't say much about that.
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There is no telling how advanced we are off the books.
Absent ETs providing us tech, I think we can say with absolute confidence we have not discovered technology that allows us to go from 0 to 100,000 MPH and back to 0 again in under a few seconds (anecdotal Tic Tac report with alleged corresponding classified RADAR data). I'd be happy to delve into the physics behind why this simply is not possible in 2022 if you'd like, otherwise I'll keep this post short(er).
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Trump says we have the "most powerful weapons in the universe and that we are about to start using them."
Did he really say this? I believe you, I just haven't heard it before.
Trump is sometimes prone to hyperbole but this would easily take the cake. In order to actually know that, you would need to have access to the universe, which is obviously absurd.
How soon are we going to start using the "universe's most powerful weapons" and what the hell does that even mean??
This post was edited on 10/27/22 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:35 am to TigersN_Beer
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A nuclear-powered anything is inherently far more dangerous than a rocket-propelled anything.
Disagree here.
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I'd be happy to delve into the physics behind why this simply is not possible in 2022 if you'd like, otherwise I'll keep this post short(er).
No need. Anyone who pays any attention at all can tell you that our current academia based scientific knowledge does not allow for this.
In order for this theory to work, we have stumbled across knowledge that academia is ignorant of. It could either be off world tech, or homegrown, but in the past.
My personal theory is that we have rediscovered technology long forgotten.
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Did he really say this? I believe you, I just haven't heard it before.
Yes, he did. He said it while signing a defense appropriations bill a few years back. And yeah, that's a bold claim. One that requires pretty intimate knowledge of the universe. Things that make ya go hmm, I suppose. It's an odd thing for a POTUS to say, hyperbole or not. The jist is that he is saying we have amazing technology that has, until sometime soon apparently, been kept from the general public.
My personal opinion is that these people have figured out time travel. If that's the case, yeah, I don't see how anything could possibly be more powerful.
Time Travel...
I believe there is more than one Donald Trump (inB4 "take your meds, BoarEd!!"):
This dude has been at many rallies. Often standing beside Vincent Fusca (an interesting character in his own right, may be Nikola Tesla). Always with two SS agents nearby.
There are other versions of him as well, at varying ages.
This post was edited on 10/28/22 at 2:46 am
Posted on 10/28/22 at 3:03 am to BoarEd
Don's uncle John Trump is a character as well. Today we know him as Julian Assange.
John Trump and Nikola Tesla were colleagues.
John Trump and Nikola Tesla were colleagues.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:51 pm to ThinePreparedAni
NYT does a 180
https://news.yahoo.com/many-military-ufo-reports-just-124417602.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJEwFttFaRtR7wnaqvTFHtb-nsA3sg10gXebUfb6fYblIglJKP5DJhbzMJlGv0voKv2ZfdWX60ShvR5OCu2vvPekdk8OlWJXXnYnodZgp38k6asfJUyFeFEa7HrTtumVBr7mKr91yU9B252tRe7DU5au74aAgYoeGS0xsApFjF09
Back to weather balloons
Also imply drones (over open ocean and Naval vessels mind you)
We are going to see just how committed whistleblowers are as the MIC just doubled down on “nothing to see” and “China/future foe for $$$$”
https://news.yahoo.com/many-military-ufo-reports-just-124417602.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJEwFttFaRtR7wnaqvTFHtb-nsA3sg10gXebUfb6fYblIglJKP5DJhbzMJlGv0voKv2ZfdWX60ShvR5OCu2vvPekdk8OlWJXXnYnodZgp38k6asfJUyFeFEa7HrTtumVBr7mKr91yU9B252tRe7DU5au74aAgYoeGS0xsApFjF09
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The New York Times
Many Military UFO Reports Are Just Foreign Spying or Airborne Trash
Julian E. Barnes Fri, October 28, 2022, 7:44 AM·7 min read
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WASHINGTON — Government officials believe that surveillance operations by foreign powers and weather balloons or other airborne clutter explain most recent incidents of unidentified aerial phenomenon — government-speak for UFOs — as well as many episodes in past years. The sightings have puzzled the Pentagon and intelligence agencies for years, fueling theories about visiting space aliens and spying by a hostile nation using advanced technology. But government officials say many of the incidents have far more ordinary explanations. Intelligence agencies are set to deliver a classified document to Congress by Monday updating a report made public last year that said nearly all of the incidents remain unexplained. The original document looked at 144 incidents between 2004 and 2021 that were reported by U.S. government sources, mostly American military personnel.
Back to weather balloons
Also imply drones (over open ocean and Naval vessels mind you)
We are going to see just how committed whistleblowers are as the MIC just doubled down on “nothing to see” and “China/future foe for $$$$”
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:56 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Absolutely hilarious. We will never know. This will go on for the rest of our lives and our children's lives.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 1:59 pm to ThinePreparedAni
LOL and people on UFOtwitter thought disclosure was happening today!!
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:14 pm to NashvilleTider
Good ole weather balloons and debris that can travel 7,000 mph.
Posted on 10/28/22 at 2:29 pm to goatmilker
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What is a bit strange is the change in the look for ufo's over time. Except for the balls of light.
Yes and no. There were reports of tic tac like objects going back to the 50's. The silent black triangles started in the late 70's. Saucers in the late 40's Large geometric shapes like cylinders, spheres etc..... have been probably the most reported going back hundreds of years.
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I've gone back and forth over the years thinking its ours vs its theirs. Perhaps in some unknown way its both?
I'm sure its both but also IF we have one non human group visiting, then there is no reason we could not have many. Or different phenomenon entirely. Letting my imagination go wild perhaps there has been something here for a very long time (the balls of energy) that are not nuts and bolts craft but something else beyond our comprehension. . And there are also others that are just showing up in the last 70 year when they detected our first atomic test. Who knows. Its fun to speculate though.
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