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re: TX Grand Jury Refuses To Indict Homeowner Defending House From Thug POS

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Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:04 pm to
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Right it's the cops fault. Not the guy breaking the law growing weed.

Good lord you're stupid. The person dealing weed doesn't eliminate the possibility of stupid police work. THIS was stupid police work. The cop is dead because his department is stupid.
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:05 pm to
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:07 pm to
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When police serve warrants, they are in uniform or have POLICE in big arse letters across their chest and back.

in the dark, with a lot of noise + commotion, you don't really notice those things

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How do you know what he would or wouldn't have done?

best indicator of future behavior is past behavior, and he hadn't shown any signs of violent behavior, even when being arrested, previously
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:08 pm to
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Cops need to stop acting like they're busting down doors in Afghanistan. In Afghanistan, the guys busting doors INTEND to kill folks on the other side of the door. That's not supposed to be what cops are doing.


Correct.

Trying to prevent them from destroying evidence is not a justifiable reason for a no knock warrant. That's not worth dying for.
Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:08 pm to
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When police serve warrants, they are in uniform or have POLICE in big arse letters across their chest and back. Plus they're telling POLICE SEARCH WARRANT. Yeah sounds like robbers to me.

If I'm asleep and hear a lot of noise and people busting into my home, generally, my first thought probably wouldn't be "let me read the dude's shirt".

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How do you know what he would or wouldn't have done? Do you know him personably? Get real dude.

I don't know what he would've done but I do know how to COMPLETELY eliminate the problem of cops and wrong civilians dying in no knocks. I know how to do that. EASY
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:09 pm to
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Negative Nomad
You are either a troll or a dumbass. You need to stop posting. If you are not a troll, at least when you decided to be a dumbass you gave it 110%.
Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:09 pm to
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How do you know this? What facts do you base this decision on?

Because no knocks are stupid. There is no rationale for them that makes a lick of sense. They greatly increase the propensity for shite like this to happen and so, when it does, the only people surprised are idiots.
Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:10 pm to
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Trying to prevent them from destroying evidence is not a justifiable reason for a no knock warrant. That's not worth dying for.


EXACTLY
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:11 pm to
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Posted by sugar71
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:13 pm to
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When police serve warrants, they are in uniform or have POLICE in big arse letters across their chest and back. Plus they're telling POLICE SEARCH WARRANT. Yeah sounds like robbers to me.

How do you know what he would or wouldn't have done? Do you know him personably? Get real dude


I personally know of a guy(relative of friends) & his friends who robbed /killed some drug dealers in Metairie or Kenner a few years back impersonating Law enforcement.

People battering on your door & waking you at 2:00 am are frightening/disconcerting.

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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:13 pm to
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Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:15 pm to
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Only people who have no regard for the law can have these opinions. Everyone just gives the criminal pot grower a pass like he didn't do anything.
He defended himself from what appeared to be imminent danger.

Cops fricked up.

What's sad is that you apparently think that ANYTHING a cop does in an attempt to arrest someone of enforce the law is OK.

It is not.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:16 pm to
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EXACTLY


It's one thing when that evidence is needed to prevent an extraordinary crime/incident/disaster happening elsewhere but it's entirely another for being solely used to prosecute the defendant and that's not worth dying for.
Posted by SettleDown
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:19 pm to
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It's one thing when that evidence is needed to prevent an extraordinary crime/incident/disaster happening elsewhere but it's entirely another for being solely used to prosecute the defendant and that's not worth dying for.


Yep.

I mean OK. You need to the drop on a home with 4 or 5 known violent gang bangers, you probably surround the place and go all SWAT on them.

A dude in his house with marijuana plants? Come the frick on.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:22 pm to
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Only people who have no regard for the law can have these opinions
No whats sad is someone who thinks it is ok to kick in a door in the middle of the night for a couple of pot plants.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:23 pm to
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Only people who have no regard for the law can have these opinions.


I cannot respect no knock warrants because they are a symptom of the militarization of the police in the United States. The police have a military mindset.

Leave that shite in foreign wars and keep it off the shores our homeland.

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Everyone just gives the criminal pot grower a pass like he didn't do anything.


He wasn't hurting anybody or forcing the pot on anyone. He had no business being the target of a no knock warrant.

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Then puts it all on the guy trying to enforce the law. Sad


Personal feelings aside, the cop fricked up and chose poorly and went in gung ho.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:24 pm to
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Only people who have no regard for the law can have these opinions. Everyone just gives the criminal pot grower a pass like he didn't do anything. Then puts it all on the guy trying to enforce the law. Sad!

i hope you agree that all laws are just/right and there are no bad laws
Posted by sugar71
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Posted on 2/7/14 at 8:25 pm to
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Well frick. We'll just start sending warrants in the mail and hope crime stops.


So crime stops because wanna be hero cops kick down doors of pot growers at 2:00 am. Yeah right.

Every arrest those adrenaline junkie cops make only means another 'job opening' for another dealer.


These people can be picked up unsuspectingly/ safely at anytime.

War on drugs cops an cop looking for a thrill his life.
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