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re: Two-time cancer survivor posts video explaining why he left Democratic Party over the ACA

Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25569 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:34 pm to
I don't look at non-profits any differently than for-profits.

The CEOs make bank for both.
The easiest way to eliminate profits in a non-profit is to pay salary.

The marketing arms of the larger non-profits also spend like Congress. So much so that there are non-profits who cater to the marketing efforts of non-profits (and again... the CEOs of the secondary nonprofits are making bank).

The term "nonprofit" is a grift in many situations.
I have no additional emotional attachment to any hospital who files as a non-profit.

As for my community, the anchor charitable organization for the entire county is a for-profit hospital (Northside).
I don't have any false illusions there either. But to even imply that a non-profit hospital has a leg up on "good deeds" is laughable.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12525 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:10 pm to
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I don't look at non-profits any differently than for-profits.


I’m sorry.. but that’s asinine. There are huge differences in them.

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The CEOs make bank for both.


You are not going to get a qualified person to run a non profit hospital system for 50k a year. Not 100k. Yes you are still going to have to pay the top people.

Just look at the United Way’s 990. Susan B Coleman breast cancer researchers, Red Cross, Goodwill, Feeding America, Habitat for Humanity, YMCA… they are paying their high ups large salaries too.


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The term "nonprofit" is a grift in many situations. I have no additional emotional attachment to any hospital who files as a non-profit.



If you see a non profit organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, report them to the IRS. They do watch non profits like a hawk in their TE/GE section. You wanna see a hell of a penalty? Look at the failure to file penalties for late filing of a 990.

For a large 501(c)3, it’s $120 per day, up to a maximum of $60,000, for an organization whose gross receipts exceed $1,208,500. That’s an attention getter if they are lazy with their filing.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25569 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:52 pm to
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If you see a non profit organized or operated for the benefit of private interests


Have you seen how many funds from non-profits go to other non-profits?

As you said... you are not going to get any top people to run an organization without paying them. It is basically splurging the funds among numerous executives because each non-profit recipient has an executive operative.

I knew one non-profit who hosted fundraisers for other non-profits. These are banquets. Donors "buy the table". Silent auctions raise funds. The executive of the fundraising non-profit was bringing in $500k a year. To be the non-profit venue for other non-profits.

Have you seen the fundraising splits from marketing agencies who put non-profits on tv?

It is undeniable grift.
It is like calling Pfizer's Covid 19 shot a traditional vaccine because it generates a level of trust and faith in the verbiage.
The word non-profit has been bastardized to death.
Posted by Pu2kph0
Member since Oct 2022
1060 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:57 pm to
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We tried to explain to people the consequences of voting for Obama & what he would do to our country & they didn’t listen.


And I don’t feel sorry for any of them!
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21691 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:07 pm to
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If you see a non profit organized or operated for the benefit of private interests,


Every “non-profit” that has employees instead of volunteers operates for the benefit of private interests.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3728 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:09 pm to
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this story doesn't pass the sniff test. It sounds like gaslight bait.


Not necessarily.

Prior to 2022 (and we know from the story that this goes back way farther than that) if an employee was offered insurance through his or her employer—even if they couldn't afford the plans offered—they didn't qualify for the exchange policies with the premium subsidies.

Biden changed that in 2022 by signing ARPA into law.

This person could have been in that situation.

Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12525 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:40 pm to
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Every “non-profit” that has employees instead of volunteers operates for the benefit of private interests.


That’s not what it means. There are no shareholders. There are no owners.

You cannot staff a non profit hospital with volunteers. It’s a given you will have to pay employees.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12525 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:44 pm to
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Have you seen how many funds from non-profits go to other non-profits?


Sure. There is a ton of nonprofits that operate to donate to St Jude. St Jude is nonprofit.

I’ve looked at the 990 of our local hospital system. It has nonprofits that fund various activities in it.

Again.. what you perceive, and what it has to do to remain compliant is two different things.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4015 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:49 pm to
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The insurance company canceled it because under the new Obamacare guidelines that policy wasn't good enough so they no longer offered it.


Probably because of something stupid like it didn’t pay for pregnancy care - even though he is a male.

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For ten years I was penalized every single year because I could no longer afford the insurance that I was required to get through law through Obamacare.

Not only did he vote like an idiot, but apparently he wasn’t smart enough to know that the penalty was phased in starting in 2014 and officially ended Dec 31, 2018 - so 4 years.

This post was edited on 3/28/24 at 9:50 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123814 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 5:45 am to
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Don’t 60% of Americans approve of it?
Which roughly corresponds to the fact >60% of ACA plans are heavily subsidized.
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18128 posts
Posted on 3/29/24 at 8:25 am to
And sadly, the RINOs did nothing when Trump was elected and they had both chambers of CONgress.
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