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re: Two questions for pro-choice posters

Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:18 am to
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27032 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:18 am to
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The body autonomy argument is self defeating because for the mother to maintain her body autonomy she has to violate the baby's.


Not really. She could order her umbilical cord cut then remove the child after its died.

For the record I dont buy that argument (bodily autonomy) at all.
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 8:19 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:18 am to
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How are those views been misrepresented?
The OP is inferring that abortion rights supporters contend that the zygote, etc. is not “alive.” As demonstrated by about 20 Posts (from both sides of the issue) on this thread, that is simply not accurate. Rather the definition of a “misrepresentation.”
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 8:37 am
Posted by Nastradamus
Member since Oct 2018
238 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:18 am to
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So you're suggestion that the pro life members of this board do not care if someone is pro choice? And vice versa?
You'll have to forgive me if I do not believe you.





They care about their own opinions and some stranger telling them they are right. If you come here to change minds then you’ve come to the wrong place.

Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
27032 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:19 am to
quote:

They care about their own opinions and some stranger telling them they are right. If you come here to change minds then you’ve come to the wrong place.


I'll let them speak for themselves thanks.
Posted by ngadawg250
Northwest Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:20 am to
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I was referring to a time cutoff.



So you would say there is a time during pregnancy when the mother's right overrides any "rights" of the pre-born child.

I guess you can see, I am making no distinction between how far along the pregnancy is.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154879 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:24 am to
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All of the animals we slaughter for food were alive too. Do you think I feel remorse for swatting a fly?


Love sjws when they're honest.

Chopping up a tiny human is distasteful as smashing a fly or eating chicken nuggets.

Thanks for your honesty.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9970 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:24 am to
quote:


So you would say there is a time during pregnancy when the mother's right overrides any "rights" of the pre-born child. 



Yes that's what I'm saying.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:30 am to
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Do you think I feel remorse for swatting a fly?


No, but I know without a doubt that if you are sincere about even 1/100th of the garbage you post, you are indeed a Sociopath.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
20377 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:31 am to
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VOP is inferring that abortion rights supporters contend that the zygote, etc. is not “alive.”

I won't infer it. I'll say it. Those supporting abortion don't consider a zygote life. And sad to say, that's a fact jack.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:35 am to
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A thing is either alive or it is not, period.
So is the pig that made up your bacon and the barley that made your beer. I don’t see anyone arguing that either of those organisms should have legal rights.

“Life” is not the issue. “Human life” may be the issue, for some, but that is not the point that the OP made with his moronic Mars analogy
This post was edited on 11/30/18 at 8:40 am
Posted by ngadawg250
Northwest Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
1000 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:36 am to
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Yes that's what I'm saying.



If I follow that logic, then there is a point when the pre-born is no more than a "parasitic tumor", as some say, and not human, and it can rightfully be discarded.

IMO - I don't think anyone should be making that choice. It should be considered a done deal, unless nature intervenes. Otherwise, it is the killing of a human life.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:37 am to
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Chopping up a tiny human is distasteful as smashing a fly or eating chicken nuggets.

Thanks for your honesty.


If it is as intelligent as a fly.. sounds about right. Hell, killing an octopus is closer to criminal than a 2nd trimester abortion is.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:51 am to
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Chopping up a tiny human
ladies and gentlemen, we have a winner for the “Feelz Post of the Day.”
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:55 am to
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Hell, killing an octopus is closer to criminal than a 2nd trimester abortion is.


Well, if intelligence is a measure of the worthiness of life, don't you have a long cliff you should be walking towards?

But seriously, you are either a troll or a Sociopath.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10013 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:55 am to
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1. If NASA announced today that they’d discovered live bacteria on Mars, would you consider that this proves there is life on Mars?

2. If you answered yes to question 1, please explain to me that how a single cell bacteria on Mars is considered to be a life while an unborn fetus (which is very much multi-cell and even has a heart beat) on Earth is not also alive.

I’ll wait.


FFS. Really?

Let me try this.


You're against abortion. Do you shed tears every time you pull a weed from your yard?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:56 am to
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Hell, killing an octopus is closer to criminal than a 2nd trimester abortion is.


Do you believe in Eugenics?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:57 am to
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Do you shed tears every time you pull a weed from your yard?


Truly one of the dumbest attempts at being smart I've ever seen in my life.
Posted by RJL2
Bruno's Tavern
Member since Apr 2015
1934 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:58 am to
For one: I don't think a bacteria on Mas or on Earth is considered protected life. It lacks the potential to become conscious, where a human fetus has that potential.

Any pro choice person who doesn't acknowledge they are ending the potential for human life is being dishonest. And to argue for them: I think the majority of people who are pro choice recognize this, but prioritize the life of the mother and they have a lot of (bad) arguments to support it.

I think those in pussy hats acting like having an abortion is empowering are in the minority.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24153 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:59 am to
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I know, that's why you're not pro-life. Pro-life places life first, not someone's (God) choice


Again. Retarded
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10013 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 8:59 am to
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Truly one of the dumbest attempts at being smart I've ever seen in my life.


Completely agree. I simply used the OP's logic and asked the opposite. It's a dumb fricking thread.
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