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Two birds- one stone
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:42 pm
Maybe way more. Hear me out. The one stone is welfare. Take that out (or extensively and sensibly reform it), and it kills probably three or more tumors on the American people:
1- Obviously, lower taxes due to greatly reduced welfare, food stamps, housing, tuition, etc. This would afford an increase to SS- while paying for itself. This also means more money in the economy which means more (sales) tax revenue. Pro tip: People with jobs buy more stuff than people without jobs.
2/3- Instantly reduces the “need” for immigration. If you took every person on welfare, and made them “do the jobs Americans don’t wanna do,” in order to receive any gubment benefits (like picking fruit and veggies, road work, roofing, landscaping/lawn care, drywall, painting, etc)… you would simultaneously employ the low skilled portion of the population that is making more money on welfare than they would otherwise. I’m ok if we “supplement” their income.
Other potential birds:
- The skilled labor shortage that we are just starting to really feel.
- Crime. Statistics show that it is much less likely to commit a crime while working.
- Greatly reduced college debt to bail out.
- A populace that understands the value of a dollar. (This will inevitably increase GDP)
Look, I see a lot of “recipients” almost every day. The only thing separating them from those who are “doing the jobs Americans don’t wanna do” is motivation.
Before you say this is racial- blacks and whites are what and what percentage-wise.
Before you say “you don’t know what it’s like” … I do. I’m one of two boys raised by a single mother. She was on welfare and food stamps until she got her second job. It absolutely embarrassed her to pay for groceries with food stamps and wait in line for literal government cheese. You can’t tell me nuthin.
I don’t have a problem helping those who (a) help themselves and (b) can’t help themselves. But, 99% of those I see on “assistance,” could 100% be doing one of the many, many jobs that “Americans just won’t do.”
Possible slogans:
Teach a man to fish
Work or starve
Don’t work don’t eat
Whatsamattawityou?
1- Obviously, lower taxes due to greatly reduced welfare, food stamps, housing, tuition, etc. This would afford an increase to SS- while paying for itself. This also means more money in the economy which means more (sales) tax revenue. Pro tip: People with jobs buy more stuff than people without jobs.
2/3- Instantly reduces the “need” for immigration. If you took every person on welfare, and made them “do the jobs Americans don’t wanna do,” in order to receive any gubment benefits (like picking fruit and veggies, road work, roofing, landscaping/lawn care, drywall, painting, etc)… you would simultaneously employ the low skilled portion of the population that is making more money on welfare than they would otherwise. I’m ok if we “supplement” their income.
Other potential birds:
- The skilled labor shortage that we are just starting to really feel.
- Crime. Statistics show that it is much less likely to commit a crime while working.
- Greatly reduced college debt to bail out.
- A populace that understands the value of a dollar. (This will inevitably increase GDP)
Look, I see a lot of “recipients” almost every day. The only thing separating them from those who are “doing the jobs Americans don’t wanna do” is motivation.
Before you say this is racial- blacks and whites are what and what percentage-wise.
Before you say “you don’t know what it’s like” … I do. I’m one of two boys raised by a single mother. She was on welfare and food stamps until she got her second job. It absolutely embarrassed her to pay for groceries with food stamps and wait in line for literal government cheese. You can’t tell me nuthin.
I don’t have a problem helping those who (a) help themselves and (b) can’t help themselves. But, 99% of those I see on “assistance,” could 100% be doing one of the many, many jobs that “Americans just won’t do.”
Possible slogans:
Teach a man to fish
Work or starve
Don’t work don’t eat
Whatsamattawityou?
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Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:45 pm to Prodigal Son
Hunger is an excellent motivator.
We just act like we don’t know that anymore.
We just act like we don’t know that anymore.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:46 pm to Prodigal Son
Your solution is for people to vote for politicians that will hide gov benefits behind work?
Not saying I'm disagreeing, but good luck
America is fricked. We've been dealt a lethal blow and it'll take us a few decades to bleed out. Get out of the cities.
Not saying I'm disagreeing, but good luck
America is fricked. We've been dealt a lethal blow and it'll take us a few decades to bleed out. Get out of the cities.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:49 pm to Prodigal Son
Immigrants 100 years ago came here and got nothing but what they were willing to work for. They contributed to America and made it stronger.
Today they get a free hotel room and $10,000 prepaid visa card. They are going to bleed out America and destroy her.
Today they get a free hotel room and $10,000 prepaid visa card. They are going to bleed out America and destroy her.
This post was edited on 4/4/24 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 4/4/24 at 9:54 pm to Prodigal Son
You're 100% right
If you take welfare its a conflict of interest...no voting for you.
Also, kill the federal reserve and government's ability to such easily print money dumped into these welfare programs.
If you take welfare its a conflict of interest...no voting for you.
Also, kill the federal reserve and government's ability to such easily print money dumped into these welfare programs.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:04 pm to Prodigal Son
quote:
1- Obviously, lower taxes due to greatly reduced welfare, food stamps, housing, tuition, etc. This would afford an increase to SS- while paying for itself. This also means more money in the economy which means more (sales) tax revenue. Pro tip: People with jobs buy more stuff than people without jobs.
This is pissing in the wind. Please look at the federal budget for once in your life, including Trumps huge deficits.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:40 pm to j1897
quote:
Today they get a free hotel room and $10,000 prepaid visa card. They are going to bleed out America and destroy her.
I get what you are saying, but Hispanics are basically doing work that black's refused to do. The visa cards are just a demographic power grab, but odds are those people will not even be on public assistance in 10 years while the same old "usual suspects" will still be milking the system dry like they have been for 50 years.
Posted on 4/4/24 at 10:55 pm to j1897
quote:
This is pissing in the wind. Please look at the federal budget for once in your life, including Trumps huge deficits.
Eat a Snickers.
(your TDS is showing)
So, you think that paying for millions of able bodied, jobless Americans (with no intention of working or learning a skill) is a good thing? Paying them to have children and stay unmarried is good? Paying the cartels to smuggle illegal labor into the country is good? No need to change that? No benefit worth the effort?
I agree that it’s not a short term solution, nor is it the most obvious problem- but it’s definitely a problem that causes many other problems- and that if fixed, will fix many other problems. Work fixes a lot of problems. We’ve got enough people to fix more than one problem at a time. Do you really disagree with the idea, or what? Why is it pissing in the wind?
Posted on 4/4/24 at 11:04 pm to Prodigal Son
quote:
1- Obviously, lower taxes
It wouldn't lower taxes all that much especially if you couple it to increases in social security.
quote:
2/3- Instantly reduces the “need” for immigration.
There is need for welfare reform and it could help with the immigration magnet.
quote:
Look, I see a lot of “recipients” almost every day. The only thing separating them from those who are “doing the jobs Americans don’t wanna do” is motivation.
I think it's not as simple as that and you are not seeing the people that are in their homes, unable to work. Some of these people can't really get out and do much but they could do remote work from home. Some are simply not able to work, but I don't know the exact percentages.
What I do know is that more money needs to be pushed down to the states to let them decide, and not have dollars subject to federal administrators. The amount of money that goes through HUD for example is ridiculous. It needs to just go to the states.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 6:43 am to wareagle7298
quote:
Hispanics are basically doing work that black's refused to do
Do you actually think that the millions and millions of uneducated and unskilled whites are or are willing to do this work to which you refer?
Irrespective of race, we have just made it too comfortable to sit around and collect a check of monies redistributed from people who work.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 6:45 am to j1897
quote:
This is pissing in the wind. Please look at the federal budget for once in your life, including Trumps huge deficits.
18% of the federal budget is pissing in the wind? Perhaps you should take your own advice and look at the federal budget for once in your life.
Posted on 4/5/24 at 6:48 am to Prodigal Son
quote:
It absolutely embarrassed her to pay for groceries with food stamps and wait in line for literal government cheese.
We should have never removed the stigma. Going to EBT "cards" made it easy and "accepted"
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