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re: Tucker: “Maybe Zelensky’s Just Another Corrupt East European Strongman In A Tracksuit”

Posted on 11/16/22 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 8:19 pm to
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Tucker was wrong about him being a strongman


Exactly. Zelensky is creation of the CIA and nothing little more than a puppet on a string.
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 8:25 pm to
fricking Al Capone
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 8:49 pm to
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Zelensky is creation of the CIA and nothing little more than a puppet on a string.


and an evil bastard that is doing the deadly deeds of the US CIA
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 8:56 pm to
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and an evil bastard that is doing the deadly deeds of the US CIA


Never attribute to malice which can be chalked up as ignorance.

Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:32 pm to
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Never attribute to malice which can be chalked up as ignorance.


C’mon. At this late stage, do you still believe these repeated foreign policy disasters that result from these interventionist wars are based solely on incompetence?

Don’t be naive. Whatever result incompetence plays in these schemes — and certainly I would not deny that rank incompetence by our political leaders is a major factor in these repeated foreign policy debacles — the resulting chaos is not only by design, it is indeed the goal.





Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:42 pm to
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OT just lit some more candles for their man


"This is without a doubt the most important conflict of our lifetime!"

-CitizenK, PeeWee, TigerDoc and the rest of the heroes who served in Call of Duty: Special Ops.

Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:00 pm to
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C’mon. At this late stage, do you still believe these repeated foreign policy disasters that result from these interventionist wars are based solely on incompetence?


Yes. At least:

WWI. Vietnam. Grenada is a maybe. 2003 Iraq. Afghanistan. And that's at least just us. Tell me what part of those participation (and I'm clearly not talking about GI Janes and Joes) was competent. Nearly every individual was brave AF, and did the best they could, but institutional (military and political blend together at that point) fark ups ruined the lives of hundreds of thousands unnecessarily.

There were blips of competence from individuals, and individual units, particularly in WWI, Vietnam Grenada and Panama, (I'm not trying to discount modern stuff, trying to make a point to the Auburn idiot,) but political stupidity and military fark ups in execution have existed before either of us have been alive.

Incompetence holds a small place in military outcomes going back... I don't know, when man picked up a rock? Sun Tzu, the Spartans, EVERY society has done this, but you want to take this position? Ok bro.

You're the kind of guy that refused funding in the 80s for the Army, but then held congressional hearings about why the Army couldn't talk to the Marines in Grenada and Panama. Pick a lane.

"ISIS is the JV team." <-what do we call this, international diplomacy? At least he didn't give billions of dollars to a friendly Iranian regime.

Pick the closest, most obvious target, and you have a chance of success. You're not there.

I get that you hate the industrial military complex, but focus. We've already stated earlier in the thread we know money is being washed and massively wasted through this conflict.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:20 pm to
Just for good measure, a disaster from Admiral Bull Halsey, one of the greatest naval commanders in US history, where he got more sailors killed and ships sunk not to to enemy action at once, probably in US history: LINK
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 4:32 am to
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Never attribute to malice which can be chalked up as ignorance.

ever heard about John Brennan? the CIA?
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 6:18 am to
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You're the kind of guy that refused funding in the 80s for the Army, but then held congressional hearings about why the Army couldn't talk to the Marines in Grenada and Panama. Pick a lane.


After the end of the Cold War, Washington D.C. was faced with two paths: invest in America or invest in a perpetual Empire. We all know the path that was chosen for us.

The Deep State was the true winner of the Cold War. FWIW, I served a hitch as an enlisted Marine during the 1980s and I have chosen a lane.

“We are not Romans. We cannot occupy Germany for 400 years. The steady expansion of global military commitments is a prescription for endless wars and an eventual fiscal disaster.” Pat Buchanan: A Republic, Not an Empire.


Posted by RomanCandy
Uptown NOLA
Member since Nov 2022
105 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 6:19 am to
Tucker's not wrong
Posted by SaintInBham
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2015
856 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 6:46 am to
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And now it’s Ukraine that launched and hit Poland? Has that been confirmed or just alluded to and by whom?


Wreckage identified it as surface to air middle which wouldn’t have the range to come from Russian occupied areas. On this of that the DoD says they had the middle on radar which means they probably also know the launch point
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
4716 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:07 am to
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cmayes56


Your post history reeks of insecurity and mental illness. You’re an angry lil’ fella.
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9320 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:11 am to
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Tucker is a stupid frickstick



This is the type of response from someone who is confronted with reality and can't handle it. Everyone knows this war is BS.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:22 pm to
Never trust a European Strongman who plays a piano with his junk.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:25 pm to
Barney Fife euro
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
17732 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:11 pm to
What does the Federal Reserve, FTX and the Ukraine have in common?

All are Ponzi Schemes run by Grifters.

FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried scheduled to appear alongside Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky And Janet Yellen at exclusive New York Times event….





Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33189 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:16 pm to
More like a riverdancing fig in heels
Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
2512 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:40 pm to
Zelensky is just another clown puppet.
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