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re: Trump’s Twitter Strategy ... elaborate maskirovka?
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:17 am to beerJeep
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:17 am to beerJeep
quote:Few people use “repertoire” on a daily basis, either. Are you trying to make someone seem French?
I can count the number of times I’ve heard the word said on one hand. Quite literally no one uses the word “maskirovka” in their daily gramatical repertoire.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:21 am to AggieHank86
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Dude, you are seriously reading too much into word choice. I have REPEATEDLY said that the whole “collusion” narrative is utter nonsense. Run a site search with my name and “collusion.”
Word choice is everything. You choose the words you do to for a reason. Especially when you use very specific words of another language. There’s a reason you chose an obscure arse Russian term that a very insignificant number of people would actually know what it means. And it isn’t because “I read it once in a tom Clancy book”
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used a word that is in common use in intelligence and military circles, to convey a concept in one word with more nuance than could be accomplished with any other single word.
No. You can accomplish just as much saying trumps twitter game is “deceptive” but you chose a Russian term that is rarely used outside of a very small circle of people.
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Your argument is no different than the folks who get their panties in a bunch about “cisgender,” when the alternative would be “a person who is sexually attracted to persons of the opposite physical sex.”. Sure, one can convey the concept without the word “cisgender,” but it takes about 100 characters rather than 9. Same thing.
Propane hank. No one is buying it. Just man up.
You chose to use an obscure Russian term in order to subconsciously Have the reader draw a link from trump to Russia. It’s a simple word game. And it doesn’t work when both sides can see the game.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:21 am to beerJeep
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maskirovka
NOUN
Military
In Russia and other countries of the former Soviet Union: political or military deception, especially as practised against Western intelligence.
Noun
maskirovka (Russian: camouflage)
(military, especially regarding Soviet warfare) A set of procedures designed to confuse, mislead, and camouflage oneself from the enemy.
This post was edited on 8/19/18 at 11:22 am
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:23 am to AggieHank86
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Few people use “repertoire” on a daily basis, either. Are you trying to make someone seem French?
Would you say more Americans know what repertoire means. Or maskirovka?
Keep in mind that French is rooted in Latin. So, those who speak other Latin derived languages can sometimes pick out root words and find their meaning.
Russia on the other hand, is quite possibly one of the hardest languages to master as it has no common root, thus picking apart Russian words to find their meaning is near impossible.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:24 am to AggieHank86
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A set of procedures designed to confuse, mislead, and camouflage oneself from the enemy.
So..... deception.
Thanks for playing propane hank.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:28 am to AggieHank86
I’ve known several rich, stable genuises who didn’t spell well or have perfect grammar in their written communications. It’s because they’re highly focused on something other than being a high school English teacher. You are, as usual, reading way, way too far into this.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:30 am to beerJeep
quote:The former, obviously. But I assumed that on this forum I was dealing with an educated subset of the American population.
Would you say more Americans know what repertoire means. Or maskirovka?
I have never had any trouble with the word, because the Russians borrowed the root word from Western Europe.
quote:So it comes from the Latin word “masca.”
The noun "maskirovka" comes from the verb "to mask". The doctrine seeks to conceal all information about the location, movement, composition, quantity, and especially the intent of military units. ... Then there's also deception and active misdirection.
This post was edited on 8/19/18 at 11:32 am
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:35 am to AggieHank86
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The former, obviously. But I assumed that on this forum I was dealing with an educated subset of the American population.
And I bet if you picked 1000 random masters degree holding US citizens, less than 10% would know what maskirovka means.
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have never had any trouble with the word, because the Russians borrowed the root word from Western Europe.
you got me! One of the specialized modernized Russian words.
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So it comes from the Latin word “masca.”
Now do the rest of the Russian language
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:37 am to beerJeep
quote:If I said “turquoise,” you would insist that “blue” was the better option. geez
So..... deception.
Thanks for playing propane hank.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:39 am to beerJeep
quote:I did not USE the rest of the Russian language. In fact, I did not use Russian. I used a Russian loanword that is found in most English dictionaries.
Now do the rest of the Russian language
quote:Not if they’ve read Clancy.
I bet if you picked 1000 random masters degree holding US citizens, less than 10% would know what maskirovka means.
This post was edited on 8/19/18 at 11:40 am
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:41 am to AggieHank86
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I said “turquoise,” you would insist that “blue” was the better option. geez
Not at all. Turquoise would be a better descriptive word pertaining to the color of an object. Now, if you said the sofa was turkoosi, then I’d say... now propane hank. Don’t you think you should have used turquoise?
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:43 am to AggieHank86
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In fact, I did not use Russian. I used a Russian loanword that is found in most English dictionaries.
That 99.99% of Americans don’t know wtf it means. When you could have used the word “deceptive” and meant the exact same thing and 100% of the people would know wtf you meant.
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Not if they’ve read Clancy.
I’ll take my odds. I’d bet you cold hard cash on this.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:43 am to AggieHank86
No. He’s just like my friend Mark who is a very bright guy. The letter keys on the phone are too small and the text is a little small to read for accuracy for him. We love getting texts from Mark. I assume it’s roughly the same for Trump.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:46 am to AggieHank86
It's a beautiful Sunday outside folks and this is how you want to spend it? Yapping about "trump's twitter strategy?"
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:50 am to beerJeep
OK, that was an entertaining little derail about the choice of a single word in a six paragraph post. Now, can we get back to the original question. I will dumb it down at the drunk driver’s suggestion.
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Trump’s tweets make him look perty stoopid, but he made money, so mebbe he ain’t so dumb. Mebbe he’s a doin’ it on purpose. If he’s a tweetin’ bad English on purpose, he mebbe is bein’ a sneak an’ WANTS folks ta think he ain’t verra smart. He’s been sneaky before in his bizness an’ it werked fer ’im, so mebbe so. But he’s a real touchy feller, so I ain’t sure. What y’all think?
This post was edited on 8/19/18 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:54 am to AggieHank86
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Trump’s tweets make him look perty stoopid, but he made money, so mebbe he ain’t so dumb. Mebbe he’s a doin’ it on purpose. If he’s a tweetin’ bad English on purpose, he mebbe is bein’ a sneak an’ WANTS folks ta think he ain’t verra smart. He’s been sneaky before in his bizness an’ it werked fer ’im, so mebbe so. But he’s a real touchy feller, so I ain’t sure. What y’all think?
Damn. Breaking out the Ebonics. Racist propane hank.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:56 am to AggieHank86
it would be interesting to see if the misspellings were as bad before he became president.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:56 am to beerJeep
quote:Thet there ain’t ebonics. It ain’t nuthin’ but pure dee East Texas redneck.
Breaking out the Ebonics. Racist propane hank.
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:57 am to AggieHank86
Hes been playing 3D Chess with the media since the 80s
Posted on 8/19/18 at 11:59 am to redneck hippie
quote:Agreed.
it would be interesting to see if the misspellings were as bad before he became president.
If his pre-candidacy tweets are more readable, it would certainly lend credence to the assertion that he is “dumbing down” his communications in order to seem “one of the masses.”
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