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re: Trump's new label for Ron DeSantis, 'RINO globalist,' has roots in a far-right conspiracy.

Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:15 pm to
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55383 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:15 pm to
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You're talking out of your arse, and I won't let that go unchecked. Several others have told you that you're wrong. You should listen.



Florida is among states with the most business closures due to Covid-19

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Yelp recently released its economic impact report for September, which focuses on businesses closures caused by Covid-19. The numbers are from March 1 to the end of August.

Among states, Florida had the third most total closures


In fact, NY was 4th.. That's right.. FL was higher in the amount of closures.

LINK


35 businesses on the Treasure Coast that closed during the coronavirus pandemic

LINK

Bar Owners Get No Relief from Florida’s COVID Shut-Down Orders

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Orlando Bar Group and its three establishments had sued Gov. Ron DeSantis, the state Department of Business and Professional Regulation, and county officials after bars and restaurants were ordered to close to help prevent the spread of the virus in 2020.



Simply put, you are lying. Welcome back to ignore.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35108 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:21 pm to
What I seem to have noticed happen was goalposts were re-situated to demand proof of statewide lockdowns. Lol. But I’m with you on this.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:22 pm to
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Pier 1 Imports
Bed, Bath & Beyond
Regal Cinemas
Brooks Brothers
J. Crew Factory
Nike Factory Store
TGI Fridays
Victoria's Secret
AT&T
Gap
Gap Kids
Gap Body





Get fricked, you little worm.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:27 pm to
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What I seem to have noticed happen was goalposts were re-situated to demand proof of statewide lockdowns.


Is that what happened?

And Ron locked down his state.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297130 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:29 pm to
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Why do you have no issue with globalism?


" We are all Keynesians now " once said by Milton Friedman, who didn't like Keynesians.

So, we're all globalist now. To what degree you can argue over.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Member since Jun 2011
2267 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:31 pm to
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That's so wrong and I will get into that later.


I bet you don’t.....
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35108 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:34 pm to
I don’t see anything about statewide (that you were requesting proof of). Only shutdowns in his state. And hell, even if that is what JJ meant, you don’t come across any better by trying to avert the fact that he did indeed use his executive powers to order various shutdown of commerce and freedom of movement in his state.
This post was edited on 2/2/23 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3185 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:37 pm to
Imagine believing this is real and not part of the movie. For years, Trump has reminded you "fake news". But y'all just can't get enough of the media. It's like a drug to you. You'll remain in the matrix until realize what Trump says is the truth and what you're witnessing is not real.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:38 pm to
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I don’t see anything about statewide.




What do you think "locked down his state" meant?

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he did indeed use his executive powers to order various shutdown of commerce and freedom of movement in his state


K.

But at some point, we get to reality and what actually happened. And what actually happened is people from other states were overrunning Florida because we weren't locked down and were free to travel around the state.

Several Florida posters have explained this for you folks.
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
35108 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:51 pm to
Dude I don’t care what people from Florida say happened as they perceived it. It’s the 2020’s…..we all have easy access to see what was happening in every state ourselves. You can redefine the matter however you want, but the actual truth and facts are that Desantis ordered shutdowns within his state, and I couldn’t care less about the reasons why. Every governor had some stated reason why they did what they did.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:52 pm to
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Dude I don’t care what people from Florida say happened as they perceived it.


Of course you don't. Why learn what actually happened, when you can just ignore it instead.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35108 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:55 pm to
Alright, I’ll agree to get my shite straight on Florida if you’ll do same as to what role Trump did (or didn’t) have in shutdown orders.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:56 pm to
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Alright, I’ll agree to get my shite straight on Florida if you’ll do same as to what role Trump did (or didn’t) have in shutdown orders.


Deal.

Outline my stated position on shutdown orders from Trump.

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55383 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 9:57 pm to
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That's not political integration.


Back to it.

Yes it is. There are various methods.

This is straight from Global Policy forum:

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Under globalization, politics can take place above the state through political integration schemes such as the European Union and through intergovernmental organizations such as the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank and the World Trade Organization. Political activity can also transcend national borders through global movements and NGOs. Civil society organizations act globaly by forming alliances with organizations in other countries, using global communications systems, and lobbying international organizations and other actors directly, instead of working through their national governments.






Again, Straight from GPF:

Political Integration and National Sovereignty

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When nations join with others in a trade or political bloc, they give up some national sovereignty.









Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55383 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:00 pm to
No, He has bar owners in a law suit over their shut down in FL. those are fl citizens suing because they were... wait for it.. FORCED to close by the state.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:04 pm to
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Pier 1 Imports
Bed, Bath & Beyond
Regal Cinemas
Brooks Brothers
J. Crew Factory
Nike Factory Store
TGI Fridays
Victoria's Secret
AT&T
Gap
Gap Kids
Gap Body


Keep lying.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55383 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:09 pm to
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Pier 1 Imports
Bed, Bath & Beyond
Regal Cinemas
Brooks Brothers
J. Crew Factory
Nike Factory Store
TGI Fridays
Victoria's Secret
AT&T
Gap
Gap Kids
Gap Body



Keep lying.



My very last post to you.


LINK



Orlando Bar Group and its three establishments had sued Gov. Ron DeSantis, the state Department of Business and Professional Regulation, and county officials after bars and restaurants were ordered to close to help prevent the spread of the virus in 2020.


Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:13 pm to
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Pier 1 Imports
Bed, Bath & Beyond
Regal Cinemas
Brooks Brothers
J. Crew Factory
Nike Factory Store
TGI Fridays
Victoria's Secret
AT&T
Gap
Gap Kids
Gap Body


You're not getting out of this one any more than you'll get away from your bullshite claim that Trump flipped Miami-Dade.

You're a liar, and I'm going to keep reminding everyone of that. I don't require a response. In fact, I'd prefer you didn't respond because all you do is lie.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35108 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:17 pm to
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Deal.

Outline my stated position on shutdown orders from Trump.

Are you hinting at the notion that “Trump shut down the economy/country” is the one silly arse notion in that area that you disbelieve and disagree with? Actively?

That would be pretty hard to believe, but even if it’s the case - that’s even more f*cked up. That sadly wrong assertion is steak and potatoes for Trump haters.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
35108 posts
Posted on 2/2/23 at 10:20 pm to
How about you try to discredit jj’s claims with some actual substance, something other than “liar”…..and that’s it. How about something like “I know exactly where you’re getting those idea’s from and the thoughts about those businesses, but here’s where you’re wrong and why…”

As of right now you got nothing.
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