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re: Trump VETOS, US AG Barr authorizes Emergency Declaration on the Southern Border

Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by cajuncarguy
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:26 pm to
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I believe it sets a terrible precedent that will come back and bite Republicans in the arse. We have seen it before. Democrats thought there were making the right move when they used the nuclear option to reduce the number of votes needed. That decision has haunted them throughout this Presidency because Republicans have capitalize on it. The next Democrat in power will do the same with this.


You can't win by being weak.
Posted by CelticDog
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:28 pm to
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Trump just drug his nuts all over the


Constitution.

Fify
Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:30 pm to
You mean the same constitution that gives him the authority to do what he did?
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:34 pm to
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Constitution.

Fify

Obama signed 12 National Emergencies

And forced Obamacare on Americans
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:34 pm to
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I believe it sets a terrible precedent that will come back and bite Republicans in the arse.


Oh, STFU, concern troll.

It’s Constitutional.

The Senate came up just short of the number of cuck Republicans needed to override the veto.

This was all done per Constitutional procedure.

The Senate made a move and lost.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:36 pm to
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You mean the same constitution that gives him the authority to do what he did?
Actually it does not since it explicitly gives congress the power of the purse and appropriate it.

And he's not even justifying it on Constitutional authority, he’s basing it on legislation hundreds of years later.

So the constitutional fight won’t be over the source of authority, it will be whether one branch can cede the authority and can only take it back with veto-proof legislation.
Posted by Tony Tiger89
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:38 pm to
Celtic Douche, with the zinger !!! LOLOLOL

Otto, had to change that name a long time ago, you were to embarrassed to be you !!!
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:41 pm to
I don't think AG Barr would have stood there in the Oval office if it was an unlawful E.O.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergencies_Act
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:44 pm to
Calling someone a troll because for ONCE they disagree with your Lord and Savior Donald Trump? Classy. But that's y'alls thing. Calling everyone who disagrees with the president betas and cucks.

I realize it is all constitutional. So were all of the executive orders Obama pushed across. I disagreed with his way of pushing policy across just like I disagree with what Trump is doing here.
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:46 pm to
How is climate change a crisis compared to what's happening at the border?

Posted by LSUnation78
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:47 pm to
Choo choo, mfer
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:49 pm to
OK douches this is how it is. Congress was given several chances to act. THEY FAILED. There IS an emergency down there and you cucks KNOW IT.

We gave the RINOS the House and Senate back in 2016 and they promised Trump they would give him the wall. They lied. Now they harrumph like statesmen. frick them and frick you.

Time to fight. The man's move is every bit as legal as the ones Obama declared and no one said anything. Someone has to stop the invasion down there .
This post was edited on 3/15/19 at 4:50 pm
Posted by LosLobos111
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:53 pm to
A liberal loon like Kamala/Chief Moonbeam/Spartacus in the White House won't give a frick about precedent

Even in the 0.1% chance they did the media would go out of their way 24/7 to justify it like obozo
Posted by rgsa
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:54 pm to
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I don't think AG Barr would have stood there in the Oval office if it was an unlawful E.O.
He's a big supporter of the Patriot Act so let's not pretend that the Constitution is his first priority.

In this case, it wouldn't make sense for him to fight it anyways, since he just got in the job. And just like the Patriot Act, you could use that law to justify stuff as lawful, and just ignore the Constitutionality of it.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146683 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:54 pm to
Go research how many E.O's Obama wrote on climate change. He had so many it crippled our economy in regulations.

If a democrat gets in there they will declare more E.O.'s of nat emergencies of global warming/climate change no matter what Trump does.
Posted by Wtxtiger
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:57 pm to
What does a Marxist like you have any room to talk about the constitution? You are a democrat. Democrats would throw out the constitution and bill of rights TODAY if they could. You only care out the constitution when you can use it to promote your party’s goals.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146683 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 4:58 pm to
Every President once they get acclimated is a supporter of the damned Patriot Act and FISA court. After the current political espionage abuses came out, all of the SOB's: R's and D's revoted the beast back in as is.

All under the guise of nat sec. you see, ain't no one gonna stop it.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 3/15/19 at 5:02 pm to
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OK douches this is how it is. Congress was given several chances to act. THEY FAILED. There IS an emergency down there and you cucks KNOW IT.
But the law’s intent the president to respond to an emergency when there isn't enough time to address to immediacy of the emergency with the usual process (go through Congress and President signs it).

Now obviously it has been used for purposes that didn’t meat that standard before but Congress didn’t object. They probably should have, but those aren’t justification of its validity.

But since they have objected it has shown a bigger issue with the law. So not only can it be used for purposes beyond its intent, the only way to regain authority is to pass veto proof legislation.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 5:03 pm to
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Every President once they get acclimated is a supporter of the damned Patriot Act and FISA court.
Barr is the nation’s top attorney, and he’s more than just accepted it as a policy. He’s a proponent of it.
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