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re: Trump statement on Israel attacking the South Pars Gas Field in Iran

Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:08 pm to
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:08 pm to
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If they aren't, they better rethink that. Israel is fricked without our support and don't think for a second that they don't know it.


It’s a leverage game. Israel has leverage on the US government. Israel has leverage on trump.

When trump was running in 2015 he talked about not being bought and paid for. An outsider. Turns out that was all a lie.


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Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:09 pm to
So again, if he was being fed manipulated intelligence, as it appears he probably was, he knew it beforehand. In the end the decision to attack them was still justified due to the hundreds of attacks against American interests for nearly 50 years and also them committing mass slaughter of their own civilians for protesting.

But we don't need a protracted war over there and that is what Israel appears to want. I'm going to guess Trump won't be having that shite. He said 4 weeks initially. I think, and truly hope, he decides to just walk away from it.
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
20240 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:10 pm to
Joe Kent was alluding to this very issue.

The US and Israeli ROE are so far apart that it will cause major issues
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:12 pm to
Joe Kent is a patriot. But maga has turned on anyone who dares tell the truth. It’s become a cult on par with the insane leftists. They just don’t see it yet.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90625 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:12 pm to
Why is he a patriot?

Spell it out
Posted by Huge Richard
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:14 pm to
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cult


A cult would be obsessing about Israel 24/7
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11947 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:17 pm to
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Joe Kent is a patriot.


He may be telling the truth about the intelligence being manipulated, but if he was leaking classified information he needs to be held to account either way.

Hard to say on Kent one way or the other yet. Need to let the process play out.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:18 pm to
Quote the part that incudes him saying Israel forced us to act.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:20 pm to
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A cult would be obsessing about Israel 24/7


Evidence is all around you but keep burying your head in the sand and see how that works out I guess.

We are an occupied nation of another foreign government. They have us by the balls.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:21 pm to
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Quote the part that incudes him saying Israel forced us to act.


He literally said that Israel was going to attack first and we were going to have to attack with them in order to protect our assets in the region
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11947 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:24 pm to
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We are an occupied nation of another foreign government. They have us by the balls.


Well, someone needs to inform Donald Trump of this because he just gave them a very clear order. Let's see if they follow it.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55564 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:24 pm to
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This is how shite escalates

Sounds like Trump just deescalated it.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
2394 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:24 pm to
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He literally said that Israel was going to attack first and we were going to have to attack with them in order to protect our assets in the region





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QUESTION: Mr. Secretary, yesterday you told us that Israel was going to strike Iran and that that’s why we needed to get involved. Today the President said that —


quote:

SECRETARY RUBIO: No.


It is my opinion Israel provided intel, accurate or otherwise, that caused us to act earlier than we wanted.

But Marco Rubio did not confirm this in the comments you provided. Accuracy is important.
Posted by Pendulum
Member since Jan 2009
8059 posts
Posted on 3/18/26 at 10:28 pm to
Oof
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 4:12 am to
They are simultaneously calling Joe Kent a liar while the President is openly chastising Israel for escalating the Iran war against his will.

Looks like Joe nailed it here.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31513 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 4:23 am to
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But muh, PDJT is Israels puppet. TDS POS's


Trump is actually running the show by having to apologize for things other countries are doing without his consent or knowledge of?

So, Israel going on it own, and bombing something the US wasn’t aware of, shows us that Trump is in control?

Holy shite. The metal gymnastics going on here is pure comedy.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49531 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 5:22 am to
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This is how shite escalates….

take a hike thru history & review the death camps Germany and Japan ran during WWII, along with its world wide destruction, - this is what happens when you neglect and tolerate bad shite.

And that was merely a 'bad weekend' when compared to the devastation attendant with a "modern" fight-to-the-death with a maniacal dystopian regime who treat such a death struggle as key their key to enjoying "everlasting virgins in heaven".

"shite escalates" when you tolerate/encourage the shite - and even find ways to profit from it - like the democrats under Obama/biden. Their excesses are coming home to root.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68413 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 5:23 am to
I'm glad hawgfan started this thread. It's an absolutely wild tweet/truth.

On one hand, I love the tongue lashing of Israel. On the other, do we really believe we didn't have knowledge of their actions? I'm not sure I buy that. And if so, who is really running the show? I think this may be a good cop, bad cop thing where we let them do the dirty work, then act like we reeled them in.

Also, I know it's fake news Axios, but if you start seeing multiple stories like this -- I wonder if someone in the admin. is leaking to put pressure on Israel.
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White House officials are bracing for a dramatic rupture between Donald Trump and his Israeli counterpart as the president’s new conflict in the Middle East rages on.

Three Trump administration insiders told Axios on Wednesday “they believe he’ll want to end major operations before Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.”


Mike Tracey on the good cop/bad cop routine:
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This post was edited on 3/19/26 at 5:24 am
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
7018 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 5:30 am to
This guy is unraveling in real time.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68413 posts
Posted on 3/19/26 at 5:33 am to
I like the tweet overall, we can't have the entire Gulf's energy infrastructure destroyed, so it's good to see DJT slap Bibi around a bit. That said, there is something to this:
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