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re: Trump says he doesn’t think there’s anything that’ll get him to heaven

Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:26 pm to
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:26 pm to
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I'm not arrogant enough to say I deserve a place, no questions asked.


No one deserves a place except through the substitutionary atonement and imputed righteousness of Christ.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:27 pm to
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Jesus died for DJT just like He did for the rest of us.


In theory, yes.

Jesus took on the sin only of all those who believe on Him, acknowledge His sacrifice is in their place, and repent of their sins.

OTOH, Donald Trump denies Jesus' blood sacrifice and believes he's got no reason to repent. That's on him, not Jesus Christ or The Father. It sounds as if he's oddly ok with the post-mortem arrangement.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:37 pm to
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Trump is likely more agnostic than believer.


Maybe. Some sources claim he has converted to Kabbalah or Judaism.

quote:

He still has time to seek his Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, I hope and pray he does so.


He sure does still have time. The Thief on the Cross assurance of Paradise by Jesus Himself set an example to all those un-believers / dis-believers of Jesus' patience and promise.

It may not be wise to wait until 11:59:59 of earthly life termination.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:37 pm to
Remembering the good times with ol Jefferey!!!

And he is right it's hot where he is going.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167426 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:43 pm to
he has said something like this before but this is still strange. was this taken out of context?

he said before he is on a low tier to heaven he wants to save people and isn't worried about a peace prize.

also go to tCTH Tulsi's neck of the woods is rearranging players. Bolton or ensure no one sours any Russian deal?
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6978 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:44 pm to
With all due respect, and I'm not sure how much is deserved, you are nothing more than a TDS riddled poster.

You do not know the man's heart nor if he converted. You are simply trying to use to bash him.


Posted by MemphisGuy
Germantown, TN
Member since Nov 2023
14671 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:46 pm to
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Genuine humans return to their soul form and return to their soul family when their human body dies. They have the opportunity to return to Earth again if they want to. In case anyone was wondering, this is what the term "old soul" means. They've been to earth quite a few times.

Those who are not genuine human just die and that's it.

Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167426 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:47 pm to
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Some sources claim he has converted to Kabbalah or Judaism.
Is this a rumor like the democrats swearing he had a stroke?
Posted by Wee Ice Mon
Member since May 2014
1922 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:48 pm to
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King Cyrus the Great


Cyrus caused the temple to be rebuilt.

Do you understand the implications if Trump does the same?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167426 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:52 pm to
when did Trump say he does not believe in Jesus Christ?
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:55 pm to
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Trump is likely more agnostic than believer.


Nah. He’s a believer. His struggle is with forgiveness. He doesn’t understand that we are forgiven and the price is paid because he can’t forgive others himself.

As the line in the great prayers says “forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:57 pm to
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Is this a rumor like the democrats swearing he had a stroke?


I hadn't heard that.

But to answer your question, nope.

I wonder why MAGA-ists are so resistant to any new possible info or research that sheds light elsewhere?

Isn't this why we've derided the Dems' obstinate lack of open-mindedness when new evidence is presented to them?

Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3372 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:58 pm to
I appreciate Trump's honesty. He could have lied like most politicians.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:01 pm to
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when did Trump say he does not believe in Jesus Christ?


You mean Jesus Christ, Redeemer and Savior of our eternal soul?

But while campaigning it was Trump himself who admitted, "I'M NOT CHRISTIAN."

Trump isn't shy about what he believes or doesn't believe. He believes he is a god.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:02 pm to
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Nah. He’s a believer.


In what? Or whom?

For the record Trump himself admitted, "I'M NOT CHRISTIAN."
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
13797 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:03 pm to
At least he’s thinking about it. That’s a start. NOBODY is irredeemable.
Posted by Brotorious
NOLA
Member since May 2013
588 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:08 pm to
Makes me like him more.

I’m not a Christian who believes just because Jesus paid the price….I get to walk in Heaven. I commit sins everyday. I commit the same sins and commit them often. I’m quite a failure as a Christian and I question anyone who feels they’re good enough to get in.

I hope when I’m judged my heart was good enough and I didn’t quit fighting for atonement and the righteousness that will always be out of my reach.
This post was edited on 10/12/25 at 10:45 pm
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:08 pm to
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With all due respect, and I'm not sure how much is deserved, you are nothing more than a TDS riddled poster.


You mean I've not earned my MAGA knee-pads and Knighthood?



quote:

You do not know the man's heart nor if he converted. You are simply trying to use to bash him.


He's admitted, "I'M NOT CHRISTIAN." Nearly everyday, with every word and gesture he tells us all we need to know about his "heart", intent and about how he truly feels about MAGA. (And it ain't the benevolence you imagine)
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39417 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:21 pm to
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I don't think there's anything that's gonna get me in heaven


With man its impossible; with God anything is possible. You can't do anything, its by the Grace of Jesus.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
24838 posts
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:21 pm to
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For the record Trump himself admitted, "I'M NOT CHRISTIAN."


That’s not what he says in his 2005 biography or even after the assassination attempt.
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