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re: Trump reforming food stamps, 700k less will get benefits

Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:41 pm to
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Yep tell the good lord you didn’t help because they were lazy. I’ve no doubt there are freeloaders and those abusing the system but for the most part people don’t chose to be poor. Instead of trying to judge them I’d prefer to err on the side of lending a helping hand.


I take it back , you aren't naïve you are just stupid.

You must come from a trash family that sucks at the teat of working people.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31529 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:49 pm to
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I don't necessarily disagree, but there are people who fall on hard times. If those people have a family and need support, that's the purpose of the program.

Able bodied and unemployed folks with no dependents can volunteer until they have a job. If they can't do that minimum amount of volunteering, they do not deserve the help.




Agreed and I’m absolutely fine with that. I agree that if you aren’t willing to do anything at all then it’s hard to feel sorry for them. I don’t know everyone’s unique circumstances though and who knows it could be anything from lack of transport to an undiagnosed mental illness to who knows what. What bothers me is the widespread belief that people on food stamps by and large are lazy, most aren’t anything of the sort.

What I do support is reform of the program so that things like soda, cookies, hot pockets etc can’t be purchased with it. The poor are in need of quick calories and I get that, but we should be funneling them towards better and healthier eating habits. We should be doing that for everyone but for sure the ones taxpayer dollars are helping. Otherwise we are simply helping them into medical issues down the line.

Put more money into the food stamp program but require a certain nutritional value from it. Doesn’t need to be overly complicated because that simply adds to the admin cost, but eliminate "junk" food.

And yeah I’m all for recipients doing volunteer work. Give them bags to go pick up trash even, there’s nothing at all wrong or degrading about that. These are our fellow citizens though and in a blink of an eye we could find ourselves in their situation. Helping to feed them and not treating them like like lazy scum should be a no brainer. The food stamp program is one of the things good about the government, forgot a couple F35s or a new submarine and help feed your fellow man.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72094 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 12:50 pm to
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one of reasons that people on them are fat is because the cheapest food is the most unhealthy crap you can put in your mouth


Rice, beans, and chicken are not expensive at all. 10 pounds of leg quarters is about $5

The ones who use this argument are too fat/lazy to cook.
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:19 pm to
Yesterday in my store, I saw 2 Black women come in and spent $300 on groceries. They went to the front door and one girl gave the other $150 for most of the groceries. 50 cents on the dollar. The other girl came back and bought cigarettes and beer with the cash. They walked outside to the parking lot and one girl gave the other one part of the cigarettes and beer and left. Saw it twice, see it all the time. Trump needs to go after the abuse. The Muslim owned convience store down the street sells beer and cig's for food stamps all the time/ my sackboys tell us all about it. He drives an Escalade, I drive a Ford.
Posted by Papplesbeast
St. Louis
Member since Dec 2014
924 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:19 pm to
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Aww the poors will have to work to get free food

Sweet! That'll reduce the deficit from $1 trillion to $999 billion.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:21 pm to
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Papplesbeast


Another person who doesn't pay Federal Income Taxes .
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49956 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:26 pm to
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Trump reforming food stamps, 700k less will get benefits


Well, shite. So much for the black vote.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49956 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:29 pm to
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Maybe Chicken can hire them to fix the search function.




The only poster here who knew how to use the search function was losh. He was total POS, but he could go find ANYTHING on here.

I know this because the little bitch would go back as far as 3 years and dig up stuff I had said.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31529 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:42 pm to
He needs to come back, Iosh was a solid poster.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31529 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:45 pm to
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I take it back , you aren't naïve you are just stupid. You must come from a trash family that sucks at the teat of working people.



I come from a well educated upper middle class family. Wanting to help those less fortunate than myself isn’t trashy, stupid, or naive imo. Thinking that the poor are simply lazy is though.
Posted by Papplesbeast
St. Louis
Member since Dec 2014
924 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 1:46 pm to
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Another person who doesn't pay Federal Income Taxes .

I wish, but I actually paid about $50k in federal income taxes last year. What is it about complaining about our enormous deficit that makes you think "that person doesn't have a job"?
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:12 pm to
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I wish, but I actually paid about $50k in federal income taxes last year. What is it about complaining about our enormous deficit that makes you think "that person doesn't have a job"?



I misread your post.

I took it as you were bitching about the cut. As far as the job thing , people who don't pay federal income taxes don't care that the Feds waste our money and would be against this.

I apologize , you were just saying it's a tiny amount compared to the deficit. I agree , but it's a start.

Liberals on here think people like you and I owe them something for their bad choices.

I personally think very few people are poor because of bad luck.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31529 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:23 pm to
Even if they’re poor due to bad choices or a wrong turn in life we should still lend them a hand to do they don’t go hungry and hopefully give them a path to supporting themselves.

I’ve got no problems requiring them to do a little work although the beurocratic mechanism to measure that will probably be an expensive overhead that doesn’t work well. No problem with requiring the food stamps only go towards healthy food. No problem with general reforms.

I do see the general disdain towards the poor from the well off as being sad and a very unChristian viewpoint. There are tons of things about the government that needs to be cut and neither the Democrat nor the Republicans (or the “alt right” even) want to happen. Food stamps aren’t one of those things I think should be though, it’s the most basic and useful helping hand we have to assist the poor in our society no matter how they got there.
Posted by burdhead
WOMP WOMP!!
Member since Apr 2017
6008 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:25 pm to
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DavidTheGnome
The bible is clear that if a man won't work,he ought not eat and a man that won't support his family is worse than an infidel...damn a bunch of gimmedats and the ones that take up for them
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31529 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:26 pm to
It also tells of Jesus feeding the poor with fish and not telling them they need to go dig a ditch for him first.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
49956 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:28 pm to
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He needs to come back, Iosh was a solid poster.


I wouldn't mind him coming back, but he was a very disingenuous poster. Much like yourself.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:34 pm to
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I do see the general disdain towards the poor from the well off as being sad and a very unChristian viewpoint. There are tons of things about the government that needs to be cut and neither the Democrat nor the Republicans (or the “alt right” even) want to happen. Food stamps aren’t one of those things I think should be though, it’s the most basic and useful helping hand we have to assist the poor in our society no matter how they got there.


I want a cut in every area of government.

Don't be bringing the Christian thing up. It isn't very Christian to steal from taxpayers.

Christians (Churches) are some of the biggest frauds when it comes to assistance programs like food stamps.

They "sponsor" families from "war torn countries" and the first thing they do is send them to food stamp office instead of using their own money to "sponsor" these people.

They are required to reimburse the taxpayers but they aren't.

Thank goodness Trump is going after these "holy" people.

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This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:40 pm to
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hope misfortune never befalls you or your family to where you need food stamps. Of all the bloat the government absolutely has, helping to feed the poor wouldn’t be my first choice to put the scalpel. No doubt many celebrating this go to church every Sunday to worship a guy who would be absolutely ashamed of those mocking the poor and their struggles. When you get to the pearly gates I wonder how this will look when people were hungry and you celebrated the idea of not helping.


Shut up LucasP
Posted by TiggerB8t
Member since Oct 2013
691 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:46 pm to
No doubt there is waste in every program the government doles out, but I have to agree with you - I know of many families that barely make ends meet, and the $300/month in food subsidies makes a huge difference in whether to pay the electric bill or not go hungry. I'd instead deploy a few less thousand troops to Afghanistan and continue to help the poor.

Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31529 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 2:53 pm to
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93and99



I agree that churches can be huge frauds. There’s a big difference between churches and Christianity though. Jesus would support the government helping to feed those that are hungry, im sorry but he simply would.

That said we don’t live in a theocracy so even though the Lord would feed the poor and be ashamed of many of the comments in here about the poor being lazy and undeserving of something as basic as nourishment we can’t use that as government policy. I wonder if those that deviate so far from his teachings in here also claim there’s a war on Christianity and get worked up over prayer in schools etc.

Anyways y’all believe what you want, to me this is an unnecessary slap in the face the most downtrodden parts of our society and it’s shameful. Merry Christmas though.
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