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re: Trump really said we're seeing "5, 6, 7 and even 8 dollars a gallon" for gas prices
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:38 pm to hogcard1964
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:38 pm to hogcard1964
So you're crediting Biden for our record production?
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Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:38 pm to Powerman
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Your inability to spot fear mongering is in line with your usual ineptitude.
As mentioned above, Mendocino CA. In particular Mendocino coast gas station. Trump was factually correct. We are seeing prices from 5-8 dollars. In fact today’s price for premium gas at Mendocino coast gas station is $10.16.
You’re melting over nothing.
I noticed you changed your argument from “Trump made a ridiculously stupid claim” to “fear mongering”.
Don’t let facts get in the way of your meltdown. This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:39 pm to BBONDS25
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The man said there could be prices from 5-8 dollars. You are dissecting average and states and anything you can for what? No need to dissect the statement or flip out over it. If there is a single gas station in this country with 8 dollar gas, his statement is factually correct.
This is actual TDS.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:39 pm to BBONDS25
You truly are pathetic
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:41 pm to Powerman
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You truly are pathetic
Facts are pathetic?
Sounds about right for the low iq cultists. Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:41 pm to Powerman
He's bad faith all the way down.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:42 pm to cwill
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He's bad faith all the way down.
What’s the gas price today in Mendocino ca? I posted facts. Your consistent claims of bad faith are typical liberal projection. Was Trump correct when he said we are seeing gas prices of 8 dollars today? Yes or no.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:44 pm to BBONDS25
That's the price in one extreme outlier place. If you think that's what he was referring to you're pathetic.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:45 pm to Powerman
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That's the price in one extreme outlier place. If you think that's what he was referring to you're pathetic.
If he was referring to that gas station he would have included 9 and 10 dollar gas. He said 5-8 dollar gas prices are out there. That’s a fact. But keep melting over it.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:47 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Are you in O&G?
I was for 20 years.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:51 pm to Powerman
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Of course. And my point is Biden might not be as friendly to oil and gas but it doesn't seem to matter much at all. We have record production this year despite all the whining that Biden is destroying the industry. Little will change if the president changes. The private sector will produce what they intend to produce.
Honest questions:
Yes we are producing more oil. But to be energy independent, dont you need oil wells AND refineries?
Are the number of refineries going up or down in the US? Last I looked they have decreased over the past 2 years.
I dont understand the "POTUS has no impact on gas prices" theory. By pushing the climate crisis and EVs mandates (something that the POTUS has to sign off on from Congress), it makes it to where oil companies invest less in US refineries, which means you have to buy it from somewhere else. The additional cost (from importing) is shifted to the consumer. How does that additional cost not raise the cost of gas prices?
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:52 pm to LSUAlum2001
Can you cite the regs that the biden admin has backtracked this year in order to increase drilling?
Production increases have been occurring for several years now. In fact production has just about only gone up since biden came in. We will have produced more in the first 3 years of biden than any other president.
Production increases have been occurring for several years now. In fact production has just about only gone up since biden came in. We will have produced more in the first 3 years of biden than any other president.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:57 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Didnt he mandate offshore drilling sales to just 3 in the Gulf? Some 5 year plan? Its wa supposed to be the lowest ever since its inception. Not sure if that ever went through though (Im assuming it didnt).
Posted on 12/14/23 at 2:59 pm to PaperTiger
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Yes we are producing more oil. But to be energy independent, dont you need oil wells AND refineries?
We have refineries and are a net exporter.
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Are the number of refineries going up or down in the US? Last I looked they have decreased over the past 2 years.
Some refineries aren't profitable and chose to close their operations. That happens irrespective of who the president is.
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I dont understand the "POTUS has no impact on gas prices" theory. By pushing the climate crisis and EVs mandates
You do realize that EV mandates would lower gas prices right?
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makes it to where oil companies invest less in US refineries, which means you have to buy it from somewhere else
Except that's not an issue to really be concerned with and not one that has much at all to do with the executive branch.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 3:01 pm to JohnnyKilroy
He's allowing for more leases to drill on federal land.
He froze this back in 2021.
He froze this back in 2021.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 3:01 pm to PaperTiger
Yes, he's farked up everything he's touched.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 3:05 pm to hogcard1964
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He's allowing for more leases to drill on federal land.
He froze this back in 2021.
Most oil is drilled on state land. This won't make much of a difference.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 12/14/23 at 3:07 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Can you cite the regs that the biden admin has backtracked this year in order to increase drilling?
I can site this:
Today's oil price is just below the highest point of Trump's Presidency (July 2018 and Oct 2018). For the most part it's been significantly higher than the PPB average under Trump during Biden's entire Presidency.
Why is that? When you get an Administration in the office who has said, on many occasion, that he will reduce our Oil Drilling/Refining because.. GLOBAL WARMING! prices will escalate. The rhetoric has subsided this year and the O&G drilling has increased. Why? Because they need to drill as much as possible now, because the future is completely murky and there is no guarantee on future profit expansion in O&G.
Another Biden Presidency will see a renewed attack on O&G out of the gate. He doesn't have to come out and roll-back some of his ridiculous policies in 2023 through the election, he just doesn't have to enforce them.. For now.
Mark my words, if fuel prices stay low through the election cycle, Biden will be waving the flag of LOOK WHAT I DID! until election day.
..and all of the Democrat lemmings will lap that shite up.
This post was edited on 12/14/23 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 12/14/23 at 3:09 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
I was just in California and they are $7 a gallon.
Posted on 12/14/23 at 3:11 pm to ELVIS U
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I was just in California and they are $7 a gallon.
Anecdotal evidence is anecdotal
Signed,
DildeauTBaggins
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