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re: Trump proposes the most conservative budget ever presented by a chief executive.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:30 pm to RabidTiger
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:30 pm to RabidTiger
quote:Yes. Apparently Obama is a communist, and since this budget is the most conservative ever, yet almost the same as Obama's, then maybe Communist level spending is now conservative.
By spending more on military and police?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:33 pm to buckeye_vol
I agree. I wonder if Obama had some massive one-time event in his first budget year that might have driven up his first budget. Nah, that could never have happened.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:33 pm to member12
quote:Apparently not. They cut some parts, but also added 1.4 billion for school choice.
Will Trump's budget defund the organization that brought us Title IX?
Of course, I thought the plan was to federal government out of education, and school choice was the solution. Yet, now that same solution is where they signicantly increased the government involvement?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:33 pm to AU86
But but but
MEALS ON WHEELS!
For granny!!!
MEALS ON WHEELS!
For granny!!!
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:34 pm to Dale51
quote:
A strong military is a conservative position.
funny when "conservatives" are favoring the expansion of government
the military is bureaucracy at it's finest
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:34 pm to buckeye_vol
The Department of Education has to go. They've fricked everything up.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:34 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Exactly. So knowing that, highlighting the decreasing deficit is not very useful in and of itself.
I agree. I wonder if Obama had some massive one-time event in his first budget year that might have driven up his first budget. Nah, that could never have happened.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:36 pm to member12
quote:Well that's a little exteme, but maybe this relates to the Baylor issue?
The Department of Education has to go. They've fricked everything up
At least for K-12, it's doesn't have that much involvement besides special education and title 1.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:36 pm to crewdepoo
quote:someone failed history class
never fought a war
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:40 pm to Cruiserhog
quote:
hats ironic is when state department agents and embassy staff start dying from lack of security what are you idiots who like this budget going to say.
You mean like Hillary did ?
No where did it say they were cutting security for embassies. You can read?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:03 pm to buckeye_vol
Useful in pointing out that he wasn't some uberspend liberal who just wanted to waste more money every year
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:39 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Useful in pointing out that he wasn't some uberspend liberal who just wanted to waste more money every year
Not nearly as useful as you think
Depending on whether you credit 2009 to Bush, Obama's first year was relative to a baseline which included either ARRA or TARP, which came at the tail end of Bush's already steep-climbing spending. Those were HUGE baseline jumps, and Obama didn't decline much from that for a few years. He remained way above Bush's (already too steep) trend, and we're only now getting back to that
And I said spending, not deficits. Receipts have soared since 2009
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:50 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Obama reduced the deficit most years he was in office.
No he didn't. The deficit nearly doubled from the time Obama took office until the time he left.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:03 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
I wonder if Obama had some massive one-time event in his first budget year that might have driven up his first budget. Nah, that could never have happened.
Deficits
2009 - 1.4T
2010 - 1.3T
2011 - 1.3T
2012 - 1.1T
He apparently had four massive one-time events.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:11 pm to AU86
quote:
Conservative Trump bitches. He is setting the bar for what the role of the federal government should be. Cutting the wasteful bloated government agencies. Time to tighten your belt beltway boys. Leftists: "The lives of our children will be devastated without Sesame Street."
I'm sorry, but a deficit neutral budget that also reduces the GDP by cutting people with jobs at the expense of Sesame Street is horse shite.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:12 pm to TrebleHook
When did Paul Ryan become a liberal?
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:52 am to 90proofprofessional
quote:
Depending on whether you credit 2009 to Bush, Obama's first year was relative to a baseline which included either ARRA or TARP, which came at the tail end of Bush's already steep-climbing spending. Those were HUGE baseline jumps, and Obama didn't decline much from that for a few years. He remained way above Bush's (already too steep) trend, and we're only now getting back to that
And I said spending, not deficits. Receipts have soared since 2009
Oh, and for good measure, the design required to ram Obama's pet ACA through locked in increased future deficits. It also locked in forced increased state outlays on Medicaid, all else equal, until it became optional for states thanks to SCOTUS.
==> binge-spender
This post was edited on 3/17/17 at 7:54 am
Posted on 3/17/17 at 7:58 am to TrebleHook
quote:
It's really quite sad. Heard Rex Tillerson talking earlier about cutting foreign aid and trying to do more with less in the state department and he's probably being called a fascist pos by the left. It really refreshing to have business minded people running things.
Unfortunately for you and yours those "business" minded people don't have to go back to their constituency and explain where all of the pork went and ask them for their vote in the upcoming election....there is no way the GOP supports this presidents budget proposal....not a chance in hell....because to do so and throw 14 million people out of health insurance will mean a blood bath back home come election time....campaigning is one thing....governing quite another...
Posted on 3/17/17 at 8:00 am to AU86
look at the downvotes from the trolls.. sad they love big govt
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