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re: Trump: on Iran "Two very simple words, unconditional surrender."

Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:31 pm to
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Iran does not want a completely united United States of America, and nuking the American homeland is a great way to do that.

They’d be retarded to nuke us.


So, 9/11 was not a success for the jihadists? It got us into a 20 year war that we got nothing out of.

Also, they are kinda retarded so they may just try to do it.

Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:32 pm to
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Trump has been remarkably consistent re Iran. He even mentioned it on his "Golden Escalator" speech in 2016



The President made the below statement, I believe on that very same escalator..

"It is important for our allies to know they can once again depend on us. We will no longer bow down to our enemies. We must stand by Israel. We will remind the world that a threat against Israel is a threat against the United States. We need to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons. We cannot allow a nuclear arms race in the Middle East".



And I agree with President Trump fully and completely. It's time for him to call on Israel to surrender its nuclear arsenal. Only then will the world have a nuclear free Middle East.

As a point of known fact, Israel is the only nuclear armed country in the Middle East. There is no other.

Additionally, even in the absence of nuclear weapons, Israel is the biggest baddest motherfricker in the region and has the United States in its back pocket. If there's any country that doesn't require nuclear weapons, it's Israel. Even South Korea, a country bordered by an impoverished, cultish, nuclear armed hermit kingdom doesn't have them.

I call on President Trump to be the President of peace and insist that Isreal disarm its nuclear arsenal. This could be Trump’s tear down this wall moment. A President that finally requires Isreal give something back.

Rise to the challenge Mr President.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 1:36 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:32 pm to
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A wise king also doesn't sit around and let a country threaten his destruction without doing something about it. Based on your logic the US should never preemptively strike anyone but wait until it's attacked first.


A preemptive strike is never justified. You are the bad guys at that point. Always will be.

You have a God given right to self defense, and so do the people of Iran. You do not have a God given right to go out and murder innocent people because you believe their government is a threat to you.

You are the threat to them. You are 100% guilty of EVERYTHING you claim about them.

So you tell me, what makes it ok for you to do these things, but not them? Should it be illegal for you to burn an Iranian flag? If you do burn an Iranian flag, is it justification for them to declare war on you?

You're all using the same bullshite excuses neocons used 20 years ago to get us into Iraq. It was bullshite then, and it's bullshite now.

Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22439 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:33 pm to
I see 4 problems with their plan to use nuclear bombs agains the American homeland.

They are missing:

1) the bombs
2) the bombers
3) the missiles
4) the balls
Posted by geauxbrown
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:34 pm to
Love the Don, but he don’t know shite about war.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35446 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:34 pm to
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And I agree with President Trump fully and completely. It's time for him to call on Israel to surrender its nuclear arsenal. Only then will the world have a nuclear free Middle East.

As a point of known fact, Israel is the only nuclear armed country in the Middle East. There is no other.

Additionally, even in the absence of nuclear weapons, Israel is biggest baddest motherfricker in the region and has the United States in its back pocket. If there's any country that doesn't require nuclear weapons, it's Israel. Even South Korea, a country bordered by an impoverished, cultish, nuclear armed hermit kingdom doesn't have them.

I call on President Trump to be the President of peace and insist that Isreal disarm its nuclear arsenal. This could be Trump’s tear down this wall moment. A President that finally requires Isreal give something back.

Rise to the challenge Mr President.


I get your sentiment and upvoted you.

But Israel has a right to defend itself and shouldn't give up it's nukes. They don't have the right to deny those rights to other nations though.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35446 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:40 pm to
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So, 9/11 was not a success for the jihadists?


It was a good for Israel according to Netanyahu.

quote:

Asked tonight what the attack meant for relations between the United States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister, replied, “It’s very good.” Then he edited himself: “Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.” He predicted that the attack would “strengthen the bond between our two peoples, because we’ve experienced terror over so many decades, but the United States has now experienced a massive hemorrhaging of terror.”


A DAY OF TERROR: THE ISRAELIS; Spilled Blood Is Seen as Bond That Draws 2 Nations Closer



Posted by LARancher1991
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:42 pm to
Sorry but I think waiting for American blood to be spilled before we strike a country is just unacceptable. Especially when that country is ruled by a religious doctrine that calls for the destruction of all people that do not believe the way they do. You can't compare the US to Iran because one is ruled by a religious doctrine that calls for destruction and the other isn't. If somebody says they are going to shoot you you don't stand there and wait for them to do it.
Posted by Masterag
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:45 pm to
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This is what I voted for, George Bush III


fify
Posted by KingOfTheWorld
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Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:50 pm to
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Most of us are former military members and could frick you up without second thought.


A true warrior doesn’t talk shite like this. You cross one and your throat will be cut without saying a word.
Posted by Masterag
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19866 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:50 pm to
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When a foreign state threatens the US


Idle words are not threats to the country sufficient to stake American blood on shutting them up.

Tulsi testified that there is no evidence Iran has a nuke or is even close to getting one. Then Trump turns around and throws her under the bus. Wtf?!

And even if Iran had a nuke, it wouldn’t be able to reach this country.

I’m in the middle stages of Trump has been blackmailed/bought-off this entire time.
Posted by Masterag
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:52 pm to
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Yes. The civilized world is at war with _____


-John McBolton
Posted by crazie04
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:52 pm to
I'm usually a dove on the ME, but I wouldn't mind going full Genghis Khan on Iran (the government that is)
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35446 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:57 pm to
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Sorry but I think waiting for American blood to be spilled before we strike a country is just unacceptable. Especially when that country is ruled by a religious doctrine that calls for the destruction of all people that do not believe the way they do. You can't compare the US to Iran because one is ruled by a religious doctrine that calls for destruction and the other isn't. If somebody says they are going to shoot you you don't stand there and wait for them to do it.


Invest in defense. I'm pretty pro-military, but not for this purpose.

I can compare the US to any other nation. Once again your justifications are bullshite. What country has Iran attacked to carry out this so called religious doctrine?

And why are they such a country to start with? Oh because we overthrew their democracy and installed a brutal dictator, and these religious people were the people who "freed" them from that.

The only country I know of that has been at war with Iran was Iraq that was backed by the US until this recent deal with Israel. I think some involvement in Syria, I don't keep up with it all. US backed Iraq started the war against Iran at the request of the US pretty much. This was in 1980, right after the hostage stuff and the new Iran government.

After 9/11 Iran was actually part of the coalition against the Taliban, but withdrew in 2002 after GWB named them as part of the "Axis of Evil".

Are you just completely ignorant to what we've been doing in the region? We are somehow the good guys because we don't threaten them(we do though constantly)? We have literally been attacking their country for 70 fricking years indirectly.

All because you are scared about the possibility of an attack. That's pathetic.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 1:58 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35446 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 1:58 pm to
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A true warrior doesn’t talk shite like this. You cross one and your throat will be cut without saying a word.


What the frick are you talking about? Military people are just normal people with extra skills. Not the criminal gang members you apparently believe them to be.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35446 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:02 pm to
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Better to fund the destruction of people who claim to be the eternal enemy of my nation than illegal immigrants.


That's called a false dilemma, try again.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35446 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:05 pm to
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You joined the military because you were a little boy who wanted to play man.
You clearly never grew out of it.


Every male in my family has served in the military as far back as I am aware. My youngest brother was the first to not serve.

None of our kids served, nor will they.

I'm not the little boy so scared of the world that he supports the death and destruction of other people for his own sense of safety. Cry out to momma boy.

Posted by justokatgolf
Louisiana
Member since May 2023
80 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:23 pm to
Drop a bomb on their cabinet meeting.
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
4681 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:26 pm to
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Tulsi testified that there is no evidence Iran has a nuke or is even close to getting one


That is not what Tulsi said. She said they were not actively going for a nuke (at that time, 4 months ago) but that they had also enriched uranium to a level no country without nuclear weapons has
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38175 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:37 pm to
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But Israel has a right to defend itself and shouldn't give up it's nukes. They don't have the right to deny those rights to other nations though.
Ukraine gave up their nukes and we see what happened...
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