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Trump never planned to completely pull out of Afghanistan - it was a negotiating tactic
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:31 pm
Trump’s Pledge to Exit Afghanistan Was a Ruse, His Final SecDef Says Chris Miller now says talk of a full withdrawal was a “play” to convince a Taliban-led government to keep U.S. counterterrorism forces.
LINK - defenseone
LINK - defenseone
quote:
President Donald Trump’s top national security officials never intended to pull all U.S. troops out of Afghanistan, according to new statements by Chris Miller, Trump’s last acting defense secretary. Miller said the president’s public promise to finish withdrawing U.S. forces by May 1, as negotiated with the Taliban, was actually a “play” that masked the Trump administration’s true intentions: to convince Afghan President Ashraf Ghani to quit or accept a bitter power-sharing agreement with the Taliban, and to keep some U.S. troops in Afghanistan for counterrorism missions.
quote:
In a conversation this week with Defense One, Miller revealed that while serving as the top counterterrorism official on the National Security Council in 2019, he commissioned a wargame that determined that the United States could continue to conduct counterterrorism in Afghanistan with just 800 American military personnel on the ground. And by the end of 2020, when he was acting defense secretary, Miller asserted, many Trump administration officials expected that the United States would be able to broker a new shared government in Afghanistan composed primarily of Taliban officials. The new government would then permit U.S. forces to remain in country to support the Afghan military and fight terrorist elements.
quote:
That plan never happened, in part because Trump lost his reelection bid in November. And at least one other former senior Trump administration official questioned Miller’s retelling. But in revealing it, Miller challenged recent assertions that Trump is to blame for setting up this week’s chaotic scenes unfolding across Kabul. Miller alleged that despite Trump’s frequent public pledges to end the Afghanistan war and bring home all U.S. troops, many senior national security officials in his administration believed a total withdrawal was not inevitable.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 10:14 am
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Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:32 pm to Kjnstkmn
Agitprop.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:35 pm to Kjnstkmn
Looking for quotes and not seeing any
Eta nvm the article has plenty of quotes, it’s an interesting plan
Eta nvm the article has plenty of quotes, it’s an interesting plan
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:37 pm to hawgfaninc
It also doesn’t implicate trump himself. It just says the security officials. That doesn’t surprise me. It doesn’t matter anyway. The date stood, and Biden ignored intel and pushed the date back to Sept 11, which caused this disaster
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:38 pm to Kjnstkmn
“Trump had a different plan, thus Biden throwing it in the trash and creating a new one that went up into flames, with no input from Trump or his administration, is Trump’s fault entirely.”
How exactly do they think what they’re saying is supposed to make sense?
How exactly do they think what they’re saying is supposed to make sense?
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:40 pm to Kjnstkmn
“Sources familiar with the way the President thinks…”
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:40 pm to Kjnstkmn
We're still in Japan, and many other parts of the globe as well.
Why would we ever willingly give up Bagram airbase? Oh, Biden mistook the fake ' forever war' bull shite with having a significant strategic foot print in the ME.
Ooops.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:41 pm to Kjnstkmn
That means that EVERYTHING is 100% on Joe Biden then.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:41 pm to Walnut
Corroboration
LINK jonathandesverneyusanews
LINK - twatter defenseone
LINK jonathandesverneyusanews
LINK - twatter defenseone
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:44 pm to Kjnstkmn
Trump made a deal with the Taliban. Biden and his handlers made a deal with Afghanistan and they got screwed. That's on Biden.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 10:52 pm to Ripley
quote:
“Sources familiar with the way the President thinks…”
Those "Breaking News" stories always made me laugh
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:05 pm to Kjnstkmn
Our government is actively attempting to convince the people of our country(and the world) that white humans are THE BIGGEST THREAT TO OUR DEMOCRACY.
Please excuse me if I don’t believe a single narrative that they float.
The left is up to something extremely sinister.
Please excuse me if I don’t believe a single narrative that they float.
The left is up to something extremely sinister.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:09 pm to ReauxlTide222
Chris Miller was Trumps Sec of Def appointed in Nov after he lost the election, He was Trumps asst SecDef before then. He’s not a part of the current Biden administration.
Given what has happened re quick Taliban takeover it makes sense that the Trump admin and defense / intel officials may have seen the writing on the wall re the need to broker a power sharing agreement with Taliban and Afghan nat’l govt as obviously they couldn’t stand on their own. Seems plausible to me.
Given what has happened re quick Taliban takeover it makes sense that the Trump admin and defense / intel officials may have seen the writing on the wall re the need to broker a power sharing agreement with Taliban and Afghan nat’l govt as obviously they couldn’t stand on their own. Seems plausible to me.
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:24 pm to Kjnstkmn
I don’t really have faith in people who were supposed to be in Trump’s corner, either.
We keep hearing that Trump was evil for working with the Taliban. I’d love some insight on why and what his motives were. In our current state, we’ll never have anyone explain it, though.
We keep hearing that Trump was evil for working with the Taliban. I’d love some insight on why and what his motives were. In our current state, we’ll never have anyone explain it, though.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:42 pm to dehsloot
quote:
That means that EVERYTHING is 100% on Joe Biden then.
Always has been.
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:52 pm to BradPitt
More corroboration:
LINK fox44news
Excerpts:
But Biden can go only so far in claiming the agreement boxed him in. It had an escape clause: The U.S. could have withdrawn from the accord if Afghan peace talks failed. They did, but Biden chose to stay in it, although he delayed the complete pullout from May to September.
Chris Miller, acting defense secretary in the final months of the Trump administration, chafed at the idea that Biden was handcuffed by the agreement.
“If he thought the deal was bad, he could have renegotiated. He had plenty of opportunity to do that if he so desired,” Miller, a top Pentagon counterterrorism official at the time the Doha deal was signed, said in an interview.
Stlll, Trump spoke cautiously about the deal’s prospects for success and warned of military firepower if “bad things happen.”
U.S. officials made clear at the time that the agreement was conditions-based and the failure of intra-Afghan peace talks to reach a negotiated settlement would have nullified the requirement to withdraw.
One day before the Doha deal, a top aide to chief U.S. negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad said the agreement was not irreversible, and “there is no obligation for the United States to withdraw troops if the Afghan parties are unable to reach agreement or if the Taliban show bad faith in the course of this negotiation.”
LINK fox44news
Excerpts:
But Biden can go only so far in claiming the agreement boxed him in. It had an escape clause: The U.S. could have withdrawn from the accord if Afghan peace talks failed. They did, but Biden chose to stay in it, although he delayed the complete pullout from May to September.
Chris Miller, acting defense secretary in the final months of the Trump administration, chafed at the idea that Biden was handcuffed by the agreement.
“If he thought the deal was bad, he could have renegotiated. He had plenty of opportunity to do that if he so desired,” Miller, a top Pentagon counterterrorism official at the time the Doha deal was signed, said in an interview.
Stlll, Trump spoke cautiously about the deal’s prospects for success and warned of military firepower if “bad things happen.”
U.S. officials made clear at the time that the agreement was conditions-based and the failure of intra-Afghan peace talks to reach a negotiated settlement would have nullified the requirement to withdraw.
One day before the Doha deal, a top aide to chief U.S. negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad said the agreement was not irreversible, and “there is no obligation for the United States to withdraw troops if the Afghan parties are unable to reach agreement or if the Taliban show bad faith in the course of this negotiation.”
This post was edited on 8/18/21 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:56 pm to Kjnstkmn
LINK fox44news
Miller said it was the “right approach” and necessary to force Ghani into negotiations. He said the Doha deal was always supposed to be “phase one” of the process, with the next part being the U.S. using its leverage to have Ghani negotiate on a power-sharing deal with the Taliban.
“Obviously, he was not jazzed by that, but he was going to do it — or he was going to be removed,” Miller said. “We were going to put some serious pressure on him to make him cut a deal with the Taliban.”
End excerpts
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 12:13 am
Posted on 8/18/21 at 11:57 pm to Kjnstkmn
So basically there was supposed to be negotiations between the Taliban and the Afghan govt to come to terms with some kind of power sharing agreement - with our not withdrawing if these negotiations failed being the stick, and a partial controlling share in the Afghan govt for the Taliban being the carrot.
After election theft, weak Biden abandoned all work on ensuring these negotiations were held and succeeded, decided to follow through on a full withdrawal anyway, and fricked it up beyond belief.
So with no agreement between the Taliban and the Afghan govt in place , and with the US stick fully removed (in spite of warnings not to by his defense adviser), the Taliban then just took over instead.
After election theft, weak Biden abandoned all work on ensuring these negotiations were held and succeeded, decided to follow through on a full withdrawal anyway, and fricked it up beyond belief.
So with no agreement between the Taliban and the Afghan govt in place , and with the US stick fully removed (in spite of warnings not to by his defense adviser), the Taliban then just took over instead.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 12:00 am
Posted on 8/19/21 at 12:07 am to Kjnstkmn
More corroboration:
LINK heritage.org
KEY TAKEAWAYS
1. President Joe Biden’s decision to withdraw abruptly from Afghanistan, without any discernable exit strategy, has plunged that nation into chaos.
2. Trump, in fact, handed Biden a problem mostly solved. All Biden had to do was negotiate a lasting settlement from a position of strength.
3. The bad guys are not stupid. They had eight years to study the Obama playbook and they know just what to do with it: Exploit the deliberate self-weakening.
LINK heritage.org
KEY TAKEAWAYS
1. President Joe Biden’s decision to withdraw abruptly from Afghanistan, without any discernable exit strategy, has plunged that nation into chaos.
2. Trump, in fact, handed Biden a problem mostly solved. All Biden had to do was negotiate a lasting settlement from a position of strength.
3. The bad guys are not stupid. They had eight years to study the Obama playbook and they know just what to do with it: Exploit the deliberate self-weakening.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 12:32 am
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