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re: Trump keeps giving the democrats gifts
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:51 pm to imjustafatkid
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:51 pm to imjustafatkid
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Already done.
Nope. Didn't happen.
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Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:52 pm to Powerman
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Nope. Didn't happen.
Yep, it did. You ignored the post.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:52 pm to Riverside
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Some of you are really retarded. Why would you want home values to drop? Do you want a Great Recession?
Why would you want gas prices to drop? Why would you want grocery prices to drop?
We could easily survive a 10% haircut on home prices without starting a great recession.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:52 pm to Powerman
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Then prove it with numbers
A 400k loan amount is a 2200 payment
What are the taxes/inaurance? 1k thats 3200
A 100k W2 person has about 2600 left for the month
Would you rather rent for the same amount or own
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:55 pm to SDVTiger
He just admitted he prefers renting right now which makes me wonder why he’s arguing to argue
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:56 pm to Powerman
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Why would you want gas prices to drop? Why would you want grocery prices to drop?
You can’t be this stupid? Seriously. This may be the most retarded thing you have ever posted here.
Gas and groceries are not considered assets. They are consumables. I want the price of consumables and staple products to be affordable because I will have more money to spend on discretionary items or to save.
On the other hand, I want the price of an appreciating asset, such as land or my home, to go up in value. That is how you build wealth and equity.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:57 pm to Jugbow
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He just admitted he prefers renting right now which makes me wonder why he’s arguing to argue
Because politically this is a clip that hurts Trump
And I prefer to operate in the realm of facts. Homes are less affordable now than they were in previous generations. That is a fact. It's absolutely shocking that anyone could even be on such a forum and not know that it's a fact.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:58 pm to Powerman
Income is higher than previous generations. Your points don’t make sense
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:59 pm to Jugbow
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Income is higher than previous generations. Your points don’t make sense
I can't believe I have to spell this out for you
Home prices increased more than incomes did
Do you know what that means?
Posted on 1/29/26 at 5:59 pm to Powerman
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Because politically this is a clip that hurts Trump
Hurts Trump with what voters? The economically retarded?
No sane person wants home values to drop. For most Americans, their home is their greatest wealth producing asset. Only someone economically illiterate would want that asset to lose value and trigger a recession. You make homeownership more affordable by lowering interest rates and regulations on building and by increasing supply.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 6:00 pm to Powerman
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Nope. Didn't happen.
You have to understand some economics but it's kind of weird it's not obvious regardless. Take healthcare as another example, given it's all fricked up now and so costly. And I'm going to focus on a very narrow segment of healthcare because I have some experience with it, but you can make the same argument across the board.
Having a knee reconstructed (ACL/MCL repaired after rupture) - without looking up the associated costs, let's just agree it costs a lot more today to have your knee worked on than it did fifty years ago. That's as far as those arguing your position go in this analysis. But what you need to do is take into account the success/success rate of ACL/MCL repair, how effective the procedure is and how long it takes to recover. Back when I had this work done (both knees): a) you never got back to how you were before the injury, and b) it took upwards of two years to get back to where you could run/play with confidence. Even at the top of the heap athletically, it was the same - Gale Sayers is a good example.
So what's the value of having your knee as strong/functional as ever before? Pretty f'n high, right? But that doesn't get considered in the "someone stole our prosperity, everything is so expensive" argument.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 6:01 pm to Powerman
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Home prices increased more than incomes did Do you know what that means?
You should just stop. You are revealing yourself to be economically illiterate.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 6:02 pm to Powerman
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I can't believe I have to spell this out for you
Home prices increased more than incomes did
Do you know what that means?
Do you?
Shouldn't it be more involved than "home prices"? Shouldn't there be some consideration of what the "home" is?
Posted on 1/29/26 at 6:02 pm to David_DJS
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You have to understand some economics but it's kind of weird it's not obvious regardless. Take healthcare as another example, given it's all fricked up now and so costly. And I'm going to focus on a very narrow segment of healthcare because I have some experience with it, but you can make the same argument across the board.
Having a knee reconstructed (ACL/MCL repaired after rupture) - without looking up the associated costs, let's just agree it costs a lot more today to have your knee worked on than it did fifty years ago. That's as far as those arguing your position go in this analysis. But what you need to do is take into account the success/success rate of ACL/MCL repair, how effective the procedure is and how long it takes to recover. Back when I had this work done (both knees): a) you never got back to how you were before the injury, and b) it took upwards of two years to get back to where you could run/play with confidence. Even at the top of the heap athletically, it was the same - Gale Sayers is a good example.
So what's the value of having your knee as strong/functional as ever before? Pretty f'n high, right? But that doesn't get considered in the "someone stole our prosperity, everything is so expensive" argument.
That's a lot of useless words and no numbers
I asked you to prove it with numbers. Should be easy right?
Posted on 1/29/26 at 6:04 pm to Powerman
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I asked you to prove it with numbers. Should be easy right?
Says the guy that has brought no numbers to the discussion.
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That's a lot of useless words
Like I said, you have to be economically literate to understand. If you were, what I wrote would explain a shite ton of, "life has never been better and easier in the US than it is today."
Posted on 1/29/26 at 6:07 pm to David_DJS
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Says the guy that has brought no numbers to the discussion.
I try to respect the audience somewhat and assume they have base level knowledge to be involved in these discussions.
I'll even post a graph that has some commentary since you don't seem to know anything about anything.
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In 1984, the median annual income for an American household stood at $22,420, and the median house sales price for the first quarter of the year came in at $78,200. The house sales price-to-income ratio stood at 3.49.
By pure arithmetic, this is the most affordable houses have been in the U.S. since the Federal Reserve began tracking this data, as seen in the table below.
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 1/29/26 at 6:09 pm to Jugbow
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He just admitted he prefers renting right now which makes me wonder why he’s arguing to argue
Hes obviously a globalist and wants you to own notbing and like it
Hes the same idiot that cried about a 50yr mortgage and wanting lower rates
Oh and these buyers can get a 2-3/1 buydown from builders so the payments are even lower
Posted on 1/29/26 at 6:12 pm to SDVTiger
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Hes obviously a globalist and wants you to own notbing and like it
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Hes the same idiot that cried about a 50yr mortgage and wanting lower rates
50 yr mortgages are a dumb idea and not the solution to making homes more affordable
More supply is the answer
I know your'e just a dumb real estate agent but maybe you could learn something and stop being so short sighted
Posted on 1/29/26 at 6:14 pm to Powerman
The issue isn’t income. That’s not what is making home ownership unaffordable. Most people are borrowing at least 90% of the purchase price through a government backed loan program. The issues that are creating the biggest challenges to home ownership for many are high interest rates and lack of supply, both of which are problems created by democrat policies.
Posted on 1/29/26 at 6:15 pm to Powerman
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I try to respect the audience somewhat and assume they have base level knowledge to be involved in these discussions.
I'll even post a graph that has some commentary since you don't seem to know anything about anything.
You say this, but then prove that you don't know what the frick you're talking about.
US house sales price to income ratio - explain how that takes into account how homes today are substantially larger and feature rich.
And the other side of the equation - explain how this graph takes into account changes to "households".
This post was edited on 1/29/26 at 6:16 pm
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