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re: Trump: I wouldn’t support a COVID shutdown - I never had one

Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:58 am to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56889 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:58 am to
quote:

Are you saying that Trump admin did not shutdown Cruise lines? Here's a link to parts of the 1st No Sail order issued by the CDC in March of 2020.


Thank you. That order was not signed by Trump, but he did work under the executive branch so I will lay the blame on Trump for that. More evidence that the F I gave Trump was deserved.

Now, will you admit that Ron did in fact close beaches?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:58 am to
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4640 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 11:59 am to
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Rebuke any of what I said.


Abortion was correctly ruled by the SCOTUS.

It is, and should have always been, a State's Right issue.

Trump is running to be President. His views on abortion are moot.

I'm against abortion, but from a Federalist standpoint, I support the majority of voters in each State to decide how open they want them to be or not be.

Abortion should be dropped by Republicans in their talk on the National level. The victory to get it back to each State was enough.

And no, I'm not saying that because it would be a loser issue, but because it's how the Constitution would have intended it to be all along.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56889 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:00 pm to
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The lengths some of yall will go through to absolve this man of the most incompetent mishandling of an event in our lifetimes' is AMAZING.


Your link didn’t work, but I am going to guess the these are the recommendations made by the White House and or the COVID task force and are not an order. Am I right?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:00 pm to
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Authority

The authority for these orders is Sections 361 and 365 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 264, 268) and 42 CFR 70.2, 71.32(b).

Dated: March 19, 2020.

Robert R. Redfield,

Director, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Read your link next time dummy
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56889 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:01 pm to
Again, I lay that at trumps feet because it was the CDC. And Redfield’s order could have been stopped by Trump. Now, will you admit that Ron shut down beaches?
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 12:02 pm
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154593 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:03 pm to
Wait. Trump told you the buck stops with him.

I know that you believe some things he says but not this thing.

He is not responsible as President.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8980 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:04 pm to
Guarantee you and Biden are still fighting a fantasy Corn Pop.......
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154593 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:04 pm to
Two counties had their beaches closed. I’ve never disputed that.

I’ve said there was no statewide mandate to close beaches and I never was denied access to the beach.

I know what was going on in those counties and on those beaches though.
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:06 pm to
Ya ya we get it everything is trumps fault. Never the CDC, NIH, Congress, governors, or any of your fault.

Orange man bad and you guys melt everyday over it. It’s been 4 years and you still can’t get over it and you then say he accomplished nothing.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154593 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:07 pm to
So you don’t believe Trump was President? Wild times.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:08 pm to
Never knew 1 branch of govt controls it all in a constitutional republic with multiple branches of govt.

Wild
This post was edited on 1/11/24 at 12:09 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125435 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:09 pm to
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Never the CDC, NIH


These report to the President.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154593 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:09 pm to
I didn’t know the CDC was a branch of government.


The buck stops with your leader, Trump. He told you that. He doesn’t lie.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:10 pm to
Independent agencies oversight by Congress buddy
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154593 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:10 pm to
Maybe he will learn something new today.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:11 pm to
Yeah you guys are never wrong
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56889 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

Two counties had their beaches closed. I’ve never disputed that.


Sorry. It was fun bunch.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125435 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:12 pm to
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Independent agencies oversight by Congress buddy


Incorrect. It’s under HHS, pal.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154593 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 12:13 pm to
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The Department of Health & Human Services is led by the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services, a member of the United States Cabinet appointed by the President of the United States


DHHS runs CDC



Too funny.
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