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re: Trump hasn’t held office for 3 years
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:54 am to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:54 am to RaoulDuke504
He is the unofficial leader of the party, is he not?
It sure as hell isn't Ronna.
It sure as hell isn't Ronna.
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Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:55 am to David_DJS
What are you referencing when you say "the Republican Party"? Are you another abject simpleton?
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:55 am to RaoulDuke504
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Shut the frick up about Covid
And we wonder why Democrats are running amok throughout the country.
When did conservatives become so achingly soft?
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:56 am to Y.A. Tittle
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Are you another abject simpleton?
Asks the guy that believes Trump is not the leader of the Republican party.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:58 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I don't see your question as simplistic as you are trying to paint
Because you are trying to find a way in which Trump carries no responsibility.
He's been the GOP candidate the past two presidential elections, winning one, and is on pace for a third.
In no world is Trump not considered the leader of the party.
Even those that despise him understand his current position.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:58 am to BuckyCheese
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Is Trump considered the leader of the Republican Party?
No. That is the problem. They are all weak.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:59 am to David_DJS
Who's No. 2? What's Trump doing to drive the DC Party apparatus at this time?
If you think my point is a complete defense/excuse FOR Trump, you are missing a lot as well.
If you think my point is a complete defense/excuse FOR Trump, you are missing a lot as well.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:01 pm to BuckyCheese
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Even those that despise him understand his current position.
This is where I disagree. I think there are a number of people in the apparatus who think it is otherwise and/or are actively working to ensure that it is.
As I said above, my point is not meant as some sort of defense/excuse FOR Trump. I recognize what a mess the whole situation is. He's a part of it, sure. It's far from something of solely his making. If you can't see THAT you are missing a lot.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:01 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Who's No. 2?
Where is Trump on your list as you claim he is not the leader.
*Trump would not agree with your position btw.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:03 pm to Y.A. Tittle
If every race went red last night you bitches would be on here saying it is because Trump is gone.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:03 pm to Y.A. Tittle
I've never said the party is not a mess.
The thing is, it's a mess largely due to Trump.
Mostly because he is not a republican and yet is the most powerful person in the GOP currently.
The thing is, it's a mess largely due to Trump.
Mostly because he is not a republican and yet is the most powerful person in the GOP currently.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:04 pm to BuckyCheese
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Where is Trump on your list as you claim he is not the leader.
I said, I don't think there is ONE you can point to. Trump holds sway with a large faction of the voters. There's obviously a lot of pushing and tugging going on in the DC apparatus, though, such that I couldn't definitively say he's the "leader" there.
You disagree?
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:04 pm to BuckyCheese
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The thing is, it's a mess largely due to Trump.
Here's that symptom/cause stumbling block again.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:05 pm to TDTOM
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If every race went red last night you bitches would be on here saying it is because Trump is gone.
Nah. Cult45 would be spooging all over the board claiming a huge victory for the Trump led GOP.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:06 pm to BuckyCheese
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Is Trump considered the leader of the Republican Party?
The same party that never backed him while he was POTUS? The same party that agreed with "impeachment" when he tried to bust up an MIC/Laundering scheme. That party?
I'm no Trump lover but the GOP is playing all of you perfectly.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:06 pm to David_DJS
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You're seriously arguing that the guy who's been/will be the Republican nominee for three successive presidential elections, the guy that is polling 99.99% amongst Republicans - you're seriously arguing that that guy is not the leader of the Republican party?
Republicans helped Biden pass his bills and blocked Trump from his.
Republicans blocked 5 billion in wall funding and gave Biden a blank check for 3 years straight.
Maybe like 10% of elected republicans are actually MAGA. It’s just that benifit cuts and abortion bans are so unpopular that no national Republican can unseat him so they can only win no name races in deep red area where the campaign on being republican and agreeing with Trump on something’s.
What is the non MAGA republicans platform? I still haven’t gotten an answer they’ve held the house for a year now, what have they done? What have the governors done or what’s their platform? What have red state governors done about crime in the major blue cities. What have they done about the border? What have they done about the law fare used to take out republicans? What have done about the massive homeless encampments, drug addicts on the streets, or about the millions of illegals pouring into their states? Now why should people support them?
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:08 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I said, I don't think there is ONE you can point to. Trump holds sway with a large faction of the voters. There's obviously a lot of pushing and tugging going on in the DC apparatus, though, such that I couldn't definitively say he's the "leader" there.
You disagree?
The fact there are factions within the GOP battling each other does not discount the reality of Trump being the leader of the party.
Instead, it shows him to be a poor leader.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:08 pm to BuckyCheese
So, in your eyes, he is not a Republican, but he is the leader of the Republican party?
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:08 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Who's No. 2?
In terms of leading the Republican party, Trump doesn't have a rival. Presidents that are polling like Trump is within the party rarely do.
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What's Trump doing to drive the DC Party apparatus at this time?
Not nearly enough, but his failure to lead effectively doesn't magically make him not the leader of the Republican party.
And it's f'n weird this is even a point of contention. Trump OnlyFans bristle at the idea that Trump is the leader of the party he has dominated for nearly a decade. I wonder why.
Posted on 11/8/23 at 12:09 pm to RaoulDuke504
I consider Trump the face of the R party. He’s destroying the competition in this primary. He’s going to be the R nominee.
So yes, I don’t believe you can completely absolve him of all responsibility.
So yes, I don’t believe you can completely absolve him of all responsibility.
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